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[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 144 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So literally what happened here is Trump said, "I want to violate the Constitution" and the Supreme Court said, " Okay — go ahead."

And that's it for the rule of law in the US.

All that's left now is to tally the mass murders along the way to the inevitable collapse of the US, and to hope that our descendents can build something better out of the rubble.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

That’s not literally what happened at all. Trump said, “I want to violate the constitution and issued an order”. Then states cities and organizations sued across three cases and courts issued universal injunctions. Trump said “wah! Help me puppet kourt!” Then the Supreme Court was like, “be still mein führer. We will not allow these injunctions to apply to the entire nation. Only to those who have sued.”

They gave him second base. Let’s see if they go all the way for Don Don.

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[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 119 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (24 children)

Lest we forget:

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Pretty hard to argue that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside” doesn’t mean what it clearly states. It’s not even in legalese. The fact that this wasn’t laughed out of court says everything.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

Wait ... Doesn't "citizenship" mean where you're born?

It's either where you're born or where you live. Which is it?

Wtf even is citizenship then?

"I'm from Ireland" is synonymous with "I'm Irish"... Right?

So if you're born in America, wouldn't you... Be American?

If he takes that away, you aren't just magically from nowhere, you're still American.

This is stupid and makes no sense, it's all just classism and racism. I hate everything.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 19 points 3 days ago

You've just given it ten times more thought than the Trump team has.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Doesn’t “citizenship” mean where you’re born?

Only in the new world continents. In Africa, Europe, and Asia it normally means what country your parents and grandparents are from, unless someone in the chain naturalises to a different country.

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[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 76 points 4 days ago (8 children)

At what point does everyone say "if he's not following the law, then neither should we"?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

At the very least, I would like to see every Democratic lawmaker calling for the open violation of Supreme Court rulings. They are a fundamentally illegitimate institutions. Their opinions should be given less respect than the opinions of a shit-covered hobo holding an "the end is near" sign by the side of the road.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Guilty. I've stolen 2 elections already and dogwhistled so much

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[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So... He's goin to deport Baron Trump then, right?

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (22 children)

This title isn’t true. The court has not “given the OK”

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[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can Trump prove his citizenship, if this policy goes through?

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