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    Desktop PTSD (lemmy.zip)
    submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by sanderium@lemmy.zip to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     

    alt text: Scene of The Punisher where he is desperate having a nightmare, captioned "When a tiling window manager user has to use a MacOS/Windows desktop"

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    [–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

    Using Windows feels like wading through mud. eeeuch

    [–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The real crime is how MacOS window animations take forever and don't switch input focus immediately.

    [–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

    And if you disable animations, you still have to wait for focus. But the worst behavior is when you minimize a window and later cmd+tab to it and all windows just lose focus.

    [–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Maybe I’m weird, but I prefer the animations. It feels more natural than things just popping into my view in my opinion.

    I don't take issue with the animations per se. They could be faster and transfer input immediately, and I would take no issue.

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    [–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

    Wdym mouse? Might as well give me a touchscreen...

    [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

    Mac has an absence of window management. it's like the product owner stopped thinking halfway through the desktop experience and handed it over to the intern.

    when demo day came the PO saw it and was shocked at how horrible it was but had to sell it to save their own ass.

    they opened the whole demo with, "I want you to think about this experience and stop, then...think differently."

    [–] Bonje@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)
    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I should add that Aerospace release update to my wm community aswell

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    [–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I don't use Windows anymore but Microsoft Powertoys exist. And I have no clue why they don't ship it with Windows by default...

    [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

    It's always my first install after Firefox.

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Because like most things made for power users: it confuses and terrifies regular users.

    Seriously, even with something as simple as Fancy Zones, regular users would get frustrated when they move a window while accidentally or purposely holding shift and their window reshapes itself.

    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 days ago

    No one is "terrified" by programs and how exactly powertoys installed/integrated into OS will confuse anyone? You aren't obligated to use it.

    [–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I’ve been working on my own macOS tiling window manager inspired by Gtile for gnome. I’ll probably put it on github at some point.

    [–] mnkhprre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

    Take a look the yabai it has a lot useful stuff

    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

    That is dope man!

    [–] Beacon@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    There are tiling window managers for win and mac too, so i don't think this meme makes sense

    [–] sudo@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    "Window Managers" don't exist on windows and mac. There's third party programs that re-position your windows. But you can't replace the window manager for these OSs. AFAIK they don't have a concept of a window manager. Its all one seemless desktop experience.

    Love to be proven wrong or at least shown an adequate alternate. Because pic is me in a few weeks. Goodbye slack, google, and zoom. Hello M$ TEAMS.

    [–] Beacon@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I'm not clear on what the distinction is that you're referring to. How are the Linux window managers different than the win/mac ones?

    [–] muix@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Window managers in Linux take direct command from the display server (Xorg, Wayland, etc.) to decide where to position windows and what they should look like. Whereas "window managers" on MacOS/Windows are tricking the original window manager provided by the OS into positioning windows a certain way. I'm simplifying here, but hope that clears things up.

    [–] Beacon@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Thanks for the info, but what is the functional difference to the end user?

    [–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

    They're limited by what the original window manager allows them to do. Sway has its whole own window manager, so it can do whatever it wants.

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    [–] sudo@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Window_manager

    • Stacking (aka floating) window managers provide the traditional desktop metaphor used in commercial operating systems like Windows and macOS. Windows act like pieces of paper on a desk, and can be stacked on top of each other. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Stacking window managers.
    • Tiling window managers "tile" the windows so that none are overlapping. They usually make very extensive use of key-bindings and have less (or no) reliance on the mouse. Tiling window managers may be manual, offer predefined layouts, or both. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Tiling window managers.
    • Dynamic window managers can dynamically switch between tiling or floating window layout. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Dynamic window managers.

    Mac and Windows window managers aren't different from Linux window managers. (Other than being difficult or impossible to replace). What you are calling "window managers" are software that reposition the windows after the actual window manager has positioned it.

    [–] lobut@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

    I use Amethyst on Mac and it's quite good but it is a fancy repositioning system because it bugs out a few times a day and I need to force a refresh.

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

    Most people forced to use those likely wouldn't have time/permission to install them.

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    [–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Installed komorebi + altdrag + autohotkey + fluent search on my work windows, janky af but "works"

    [–] sudo@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

    This me. Gonna set up RDP and just remote in from my desktop. I'd rather find a new job than be that unproductive.

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

    As much as I despise Windows while also using archlinux/i3-wm as my daily driver...

    Tiling is no rocket science. Basically every stacking window manager including Windows can do it well enough to be usable with just a few properly configured defaults and short-keys.

    [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I use Rectangle whenever I need to do some tiling go decent effect.

    [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Aren't most windows already some form of rectangle? /s

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

    It honestly feels like an alien device to me... wdym, firefox-nightly isn't just in WS 3, reachable by pressing Super + 3, but somewhere in that list in of Alt + Tab and I have to search that shit?

    [–] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Okay give me the short and simple. What window manager should I try. I'm using an off shoot of Fedora.

    [–] foxido@social.cutie.team 6 points 1 week ago

    Hyprland is awesome. Simple config + good out of the box experience

    But for almost all tiling managers I recommend you steal your first config from r/unixporn and then just adapt it

    @POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com @sanderium@lemmy.zip

    [–] crabonhead@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

    I quite like Hyprland

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    BSPWM + lxqt/ xfce (lxqt recommended)

    You'll also need SXHKD for better and easier shortcut handling

    [–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    Linux developers can't name their products any better than they name their variables.

    "Programming done, time to publish, now it just needs a name..." briefly pauses, then smashes face into keyboard... "There! ... ehh, no, still missing something." clicks random spot, types X... "Perfect! Send it!"

    [–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    To be fair, neither can enterprise outfits.

    Teams

    New Teams

    Teams (new)

    Probably more that I forgot

    [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 week ago

    Neither can Nintendo.

    3DS
    New 3DS
    Wii
    Wii U

    Well, they at least got the name of Switch 2 right. They finally learned.

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    For a long time I used the music player ncmpcpp. The name makes perfect sense if you already know what it means and how it relates to other things.

    [–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    No Cunts Music Player (written in) C Plus Plus. that's my guess

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    It did make sense at one point. They implemented a music player with a daemon part and a client part, so from that you had the mpd server and mpc client. Someone wrote an ncurses frontend for the client, naturally called ncmpc. Iirc that person abandoned it and someone else took over with a new iteration. ncmpcpp. But it really is a bad name.

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    [–] traches@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

    It’s true, I’m completely broken. I can’t even use a stacking window manager on Linux, I’m instantly pissed off

    [–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

    Outlook has a ChatGPT tab now. Good times good times.

    [–] Obnomus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

    Can confirm

    The reverse for me lol. Mouse-heavy user here

    [–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

    yabai on mac is the most wm like experience

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