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No headphone jack means I won't even consider it, very sad to see it's still the case.

[–] Panties@lemmy.ca 195 points 6 days ago (52 children)

No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

[–] Laser@feddit.org 56 points 6 days ago (38 children)

I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced...

[–] warm@kbin.earth 80 points 5 days ago (20 children)

After having a phone without a 3.5mm port or a microSD card slot, the top 2 features I want on a phone are a 3.5mm port and a microSD card slot.

Shame Sony discontinued their Xperia 5 series, even if they were also excessively priced.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (21 children)

Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity and eco-friendly.

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[–] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 33 points 4 days ago (7 children)
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[–] bvoigtlaender@feddit.org 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Was really hoping to see a Fairphone 6a. Similar to the Google Pixel Series. Just a cheap version of it. I really don't need 120Hz, OLED or "No Bezels" all i want is big battery and a headphone jack that is all.

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[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 16 points 4 days ago

a few things i like:

  • moments is an interesting concept
  • it says you can toggle off gemini ai. this is good
  • display goes from 10-120hz for battery
  • ultrawide selfie camera
  • microsd card slot!
  • power button fingerprint scanner, way better than underscreen
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Worth noting buying a second hand phone is still better in every aspect and sadly 2nd hand Samsung from 3 years ago is still better and cheaper. Though Fairphone is getting closer with each release!

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[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

love fairphone but i cant go bacl from graphene os. its so nice not having google attacjed to everything.

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[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For real, though, what is it?

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

A time of flight sensor for autofocus

[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

Compared to the Fairphone 5 it has some improvements but also a few downsides:

Pro:

  • It's a bit smaller (~4mm) and lighter (~20g)
  • Slightly better camera (future tests will tell how much better)
  • 120 Hz display
  • More RAM and storage (although I feel that the previous 6GB/128GB option was also sufficient for most users)
  • WiFi 6E Tri-Band (however you will likely never need this speed)
  • Bluetooth 5.4
  • Slightly larger battery

Con:

  • Backpanel now requires a screwdriver
  • Display has less resolution/PPI
  • Performance of processor will likely be nearly identical to predecessor (however it's more efficient and modern)
  • Downgrade to USB 2
  • 600€

My conclusion: Overall the improvements are ok, however just releasing the Fairphone 5 with a newer SoC might have been the better/more cost effective choice. Sacrificing display resolution for 120 Hz feels also quite wrong. 600€ is very pricy for a phone like this. Cutting some premium features away like the 120 Hz display or a bit of RAM and storage (that you can extend anyway with an SD card) might have saved enough to get the launch price down to somewhere near 500€ which would make it accessible for a wider audience.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago

Downgrade to USB 2

What the fuck?

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 65 points 5 days ago (18 children)

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Just an update, I learnt that GrapheneOS developers are 'aggressive' towards other FLOSS projects (following comments on other thread, but you can searx grepheneos+controversy and see for yourselves).

So now, I might just prefer an FP6.

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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

I bought an oled phone for 200€ a few years back. What I'd really want is that every smartphone sold in the EU is open, with open drivers and OS with root access if you want to. And some investments by the EU to support open smartphone OS.

What a shithole civilization.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 29 points 5 days ago (6 children)

FP would be a good choice for Graphene.

[–] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately Graphene have said they will only use pixels (or potentially their own phone in the future) because no other phones have the Titan M2 security chip.

It's a shame though, because I'd love to have Graphene on it.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I just want them to make a true flagship phone. I personally wouldn't mind paying extra for a more ethical phone, if it had all the bells and whistles and wasn't half obsolete straight out of the box.

[–] __dev@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A big problem they have is that they have to rely on Qualcomm for security updates, and the flagship chips simply don't get 8+ years of support. Fairphone uses Qualcomms IOT chips, which come with much longer support.

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[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 61 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

It's too bad they dont ship to Canada. I'm in the market for a new phone and would seriously consider this.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Ok but what about a headphone jack ?

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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (32 children)

Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 165 points 5 days ago (62 children)

Let me expand, as I usually deal with surveys and population feedback. There's loud feedback, and there's statistically significant feedback.

People who want a headphone jack are very loud. They will interject this issue into every feedback opportunity given. They will mention it on the comment sections, forums, q&a sessions, answer their surveys accordingly, etc. That's all fine and their prerogative.

However, when you look at the statistics. They are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population. They are not statistically significant for decision making. They don't have the volume to move sales significantly. This sucks, of course, and I personally wouldn't mind the return of headphone jacks, smaller phones and bigger batteries as a fair trade for thicker phones.

But unfortunately, the vast majority of the market is pre-occupied with other things. The phone screen is too small, the phone weights too much, the phone is too thick, I want to bring my phone to the pool without fear of it breaking, etc. They are not as passionate about it, not like the headphone people are, but they far outnumber them in several orders of magnitude. In the end, if the product doesn't sell, it won't matter how much it was worth to a single passionate person. It will sink the company if it doesn't have mass appeal. Making phones is already an extremely expensive endeavor.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Honestly, this might be the first fairphone which I would classify as good enough for daily use.

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