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Remember, some different-than-them folks looking for fundamental rights and common decency was all it took to get 70 million people angry enough to vote in a dictator (slrpnk.net)

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The lesson to learn is if we run uncharismatic candidates who are substantially further to the right than the Dems voter base, and the most thought the candidate gives the voting base is:

They have to vote for me. Who else are the left gonna vote for?

Its fucking "no one", and it's been that same answer for a long time.

We have a fair DNC now that won't try to shove a conservative down America's throats. So we have a chance to win.

But if we run a conservative as a Dem, Republicans win.

It's really fucking tiring to see those conservatives blame trans people for the lose. That had nothing to do with it. It might be the final straw for some people, but there was a shit ton of reasons people couldn't hold their nose this time.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We have a fair DNC now that won’t try to shove a conservative down America’s throats.

Do you have a link to a story about this? I don't doubt you, I just want to read more about it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure what you mean...

The chair has absolute power and is accountable to no one.

Before the current DNC chair was elected (just a few months ago) they had been head of the Minnesota state party for about a decade.

That's a very long political track record to look at, and that's why the DNC voting members elected him

Are you asking for a summary of the last decade of Minnesota state politics that shows Martin ran fair primaries which resulted in progressive Dems getting majorities?

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 month ago

I just wondered if you had a link to a story or analysis summarizing that, since I wasn't aware of any of it. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I'll look it up.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you asking for a summary of the last decade of Minnesota state politics that shows Martin ran fair primaries which resulted in progressive Dems getting majorities?

I would love this summary if there is one.

The only thing I had heard about the DNC leadership was them electing a progressive to vice chair on "accident" and then kicked him out after they realized he would be supporting progressive canidates

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You’re thinking of Vice Chair David Hogg.

Hogg pledged to primary ineffective democrats and the party crucified him for it. Current chair Ken Martin opposed this, proposing a change to bylaws that would require impartiality in primaries.

I am firmly with Hogg on this. Progressives need to be supported and conservative Democrats purged. Republicans with a D next to their name are no less an existential threat than those with an R. I don’t see Ken Martin as promising in any way whatsoever.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Right, because Trump was a better option. Im so glad we imported the fascism directly this time instead of watching it take shape in other countries. Congratulations, we'll all be trying to avoid the death camps at some point in the next 5 years.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ah, but withholding my vote means my soul is pure and I don't own these consequences!

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Saw a video of Dr Umar admitting to not voting and using it to virtue signal. Like bitch there is an active genocide going on and the community you claim to want to protect and uplift is about to be ratfucked into participating in it.

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[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

Better to DIE than DEI, I guess.

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

This is a dumb narrative that leads to petty bickering while we are currently living under literal fascism. The reason they elected a fascist is because they desire change from the status quo. Pronouns are not a positive change for most people. So of course they will pick a fascist over that platform, if that's all it has to offer. The left has to get real, and I mean realpolitik. We have real solutions to offer these people. That's what the message should focus on. Inclusion is a given with leftism. DEI is corporate virtue signaling.

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

there was plenty of things besides pronouns that dems had to offer. like boosting new homeowners and offering incentives to new families having babies. racism and misogyny overruled it though. "i'm gonna ban all muslims and mexican are rapists!" won out.

America is looking at the proverbial mirror and realizing its full of racist, morons and people who think women can't lead; and no amount of 'well Kamala and Clinton didn't get me excited and offer me anything' will excuse that.

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[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

agree, the inclusion movement went too far into dictating how people should behave and cancelling people on the basis of any perceived offenses and that gave electoral leverage to the current president

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't prove a negative, but it's not like US policy towards Iran (or Israel) changes much from admin to admin. Here's Kamala right before the election saber rattling: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/harris-iran-greatest-adversary-trump-election.html

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is such a counterproductive take. It ignores why Harris actually lost (like Biden running again and refusing to step down until the end), while also implying that the Democrats didn't do anything wrong whatsoever and the fault lies with the electorate. If that's the takeaway for the DNC from this past election then we're cooked.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

70 million people looked at maga bigotry of various sorts and found it not to be a dealbreaker. Fact. They either hoped or knew Trump would hurt other people not like them, so they gave him a pass. (and that doesn't count what I believe to be the vast majority of Trump voters who were overtly OK with it.)

My intent in sharing here isn't to postmortem the election. It's a reminder of the 70 million shitty people we smile and shake hands with every day.

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