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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 33 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

New footage is coming out of Gaza and it's going viral, they're gunning people in the streets

[–] TheOtherwise@hexbear.net 19 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Unless im misunderstanding you, havent they already been doing this? Where can i find the video?

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 13 points 1 hour ago

Fucking hell

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 24 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Right wing portuguese gov is introducing a law so workers, or "colaborators" as they call them, can "buy" vacation days by getting their salaries deducted. Is this a thing anywhere else?

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 16 points 52 minutes ago

Yeah it's called "purchase leave" in a Australia, it's not super common yet, but it's like a payday loan for paid holiday leave. You take time off paid but make up for it later by salary deduction over a period of time.

[–] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 12 points 49 minutes ago

Yes - however check the extent to which your other entitlements are reduced.

My employer lets you continue to get full entitlements (PTO, counts toward employment length) even if you've purchased vacation days.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago

Yup. In the UK, I get 24 days PTO but twice a year I can buy or sell days based on my salaried daily rate to bring that as high as 28 or as low as 20.

People dont seem to mind it. I work a 9-5 weekday job that's bound by public holidays, so I get a lot more structure with time off than a service worker whose shifts may change from one week or the next.

Sometimes my partner will take out holiday days for weekends or bank holidays, for example, so by the end of the year I usually end up with more PTO days than her and end up selling them for extra cash after Christmas.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 24 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)
[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 21 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

If true Iran is currently doing "negotiations" with the US again

Apperently this way the Big Strike was Stopped Yesterday , i dont approve on stopping big strike , fells like another true Promise broken kitty-birthday-sad

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 33 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Iran should agree to not do enrichment.

Then do enrichment anyway.

Fuck em. Play their game, fuck em over, once you have nukes you're safe.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 20 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I agree if they can get their opsec together. If the Mossad so much as whispers a suggestion that Iran is doing just that, this shit will happen all over again. Maybe by then Iran could procure some better defences.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 1 hour ago

Mossad are going to whisper that one way or another. Better to actually be doing it than not.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 21 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

was it stopped or is there just not a lot of footage of it due to military censorship? earlier people were talking about nearly a thousand drones and a lot of cruise missiles

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 13 points 1 hour ago

there was no footage from Westbank Iraq , Syria of them flighn overhead as well.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 12 points 1 hour ago

Iraq and Syria would have lots of footage even if impacts in Israel were hidden

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 2 points 5 minutes ago

piSSad and Unit 8200 getting clapped sicko-hexbear

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 30 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

so hexbear arm chair generals, how likely is for the israel/US to carper bomb or nuke tehran? so far it's been impossible to evacuate and right now is our last chance to do so, but it's going to be very hard considering we have vulnerable people with us and wherever we go there's certainly going to be food, water and fuel shortage.

imo right now the kind of "evacuation orders" pissrael has sent doesn't seem to be in the level of nukes, it looks like it's a kind of cyber warfare designed to cause panic and confusion, rather than a pretense for bombing. what y'all think?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 hour ago

Tehran? Get out as soon as possible. There is a very real possibility that it's going to be massively hit by Thursday.

If it does not get hit by then there is potentially that it won't happen, but get the fuck out right now if you can.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago

If you hear Iran Political Class talking about "negotiations" etc. and it does not Strike heavy in the next 3 Days then Teharan will be Devoured by USA, Israel , France , UK and Azerbaijan in what will basiclly ammount to a Puplic execution of a rebell Leader.

Another wierd Indicator would be Political Support from China - If you hear a single announcment of 'Consequences for USA' announced by China then that would be a good sign , if all you hear is silence.... bad sign.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 19 points 1 hour ago

Carpet bombing of Tehran is a real possibility once US joins the fray. I would get to a countryside location if you can find one, if you have a relative out at a farm or something?

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 18 points 1 hour ago

Dont think they'll need to use nukes on Tehran unless out of insanity or sheer evil.

Fordow? Maybe, but it depends if the complex is 800M underground or 80M. I've seen people here claim both and the latter would be well within the range of MOPs I think.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 19 points 2 hours ago

If they use a nuke it'll most likely be of the tactical variety and they'll probably drop it on Fordow

Won't work since the facility is too far underground even for the gigantic hydrogen bombs

But it's failure may send the US and Israelis into a psychosis where they drop a MOP or tactical nuke on Tehran tho I seriously doubt it

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 36 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Pizza index is supposedly really going off right now. Add to it both the zionists and Trump in threatening but very vague ways telling Iranians to leave Tehran and I think by tomorrow evening one of these or more will be true:

  1. The zionists are going to nuke Tehran and by issuing the warning they'll claim they tried to save lives and how moral they are blah, blah, blah. They told Trump and he said fine.

  2. The US is getting involved and attacks tomorrow, massive planed bombings across Tehran, possibly something resembling carpet bombing which Trump has shown a past admiration for in speech at least if not actions. Even if not indiscriminate like carpet bombing likely enough massive strikes by the US on various things including infrastructure and attempts to kill leadership that they expect if people don't flee that hundreds or thousands of civilians will die.

  3. It's a bluff. I don't believe this likely at this point. It could I suppose be a faint designed to make them think they'll get hit there when they intend to hit their nuclear installations first. But it seems like this wouldn't be that effective.

In either case Iran's lack of effective air defense is going to be a real problem. In either case I predict the zionists and US will deploy a cyber-weapon and electronic warfare to bring down what air defense Iran has before they start their attack whether nuclear or conventional.

They intend to kill Kohmeini as well as decapitate the military and civil and religious leadership of Iran to weaken it and finish it off. If the US is getting involved they will pound Iran's nuclear sites with bunker buster after bunker buster, they will hit them continuously for days and at least cause set-backs if not destruction. Decapitation if carried out successfully I think has a good chance of working, not next week but soon enough incompetent or compromised folks will be in charge and blunder or act the way the zionist entity and west want them to act leading to further failures eventually triggering a Syria or Libya style collapse with regional Arab puppet armies sent in along with proxies like MEK, ISIS, etc, maybe even Turkey to lead an on the ground invasion and toppling of remaining problems. This may take months or a year. Hezbollah was taken out of the picture after all by this tactic.

I was reading a piece that speculated the samson option wasn't just nuclear. That noted the zionists develop medical devices, code for all kinds of critical infrastructure and systems and the samson option could be designed to bring the world to its knees. Basically saying the only way for the world to be safe when the zionist entity falls is if the entirety of it is engulfed in multiple overlapping nuclear strikes preventing them from issuing the go code to start it. And I believe they'd do it. And because I believe they'd do that I believe they'd also nuke Tehran and get away with it.

Another speculation I've seen is the zionists will blow up the temple mount/third temple area and blame it on Iran to get the Muslim world angry at Iran and to be able to begin construction on the Jewish third temple prophesied in the bible (thus important to Christian zionists) which leads to the end times. If that were part of the package deal of nuking Tehran America's deranged Evangelicals would take it in a heartbeat as they're desperate for the apocalypse.

I hope everyone stays safe, I hope the US doesn't get involved and I hope nukes are not used but I am getting such a bad feeling about this.

[–] coolusername@hexbear.net 6 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

I don't think the US can do much actually. They don't have anything better than f35's, which 3 have already been shot down by Iran. All carriers are sitting ducks and they were warded off by Ansar Allah. Yes, they have good bunker buster bombs, but how much are they willing to sacrifice to be able to use it?

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