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Years earlier, she had asked a boss if he would let his children fly on a plane with the litany of flaws and non-conformances he was urging her to “pencil-whip”: “Cindy, none of these planes are staying in America, they’re all going overseas,” he retorted, much to her horror.

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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 11 points 1 day ago

I hope a third player balances things out. I don't care if it is Bombardier, Embraer, Comac or some other company. Just need the Airbus-Boeing duopoly broken.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I am genuinely curious why on Earth airline companies are still buying Boeing planes. The last 5-10 crashes all included their planes and it is a mystery why their shares didn't tank more.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Airbus has a backlog of 8000 jets. Order one today and it will take a decade before it arrives. So airliners basically have to keep their current fleet flying.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Planes they already have can't really be grounded immediately without replacements. Buying replacements takes time and money. Negotiating contracts also takes time. Pre existing contracts tying a company to boeing probably exist in some places. There's probably some incentive to not drop a somewhat strategic business on a whim. And maybe some people believe that boeing will start pulling their head out of their ass at some point.

And all that would be a hindrance assuming there is a will to stop buying boeing planes, AND move to another, potentially foreign business like Airbus.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Because what are you gonna do? Not fly?

[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yes, that would be the sensible thing to do. Too bad that people are not sensible.

[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Introducing Space X expedited flights from Florida to anywhere in the world... Remote pickup not included in conflict regions.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because the stock market is a fucking scam.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, yes, but what does that have to do with their question?

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It is a mystery why their shares didn’t tank more

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's gambling for the rich and people who want to be rich.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's gambling for the people who want to be rich. It's a bank and tax haven for those who are already rich.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Organisational inertia. Planes are expensive, and getting them and qualified personnel to fly and maintain them is a long and complicated process for the airline companies (and the governments supporting the airlines).

They get the news about Boeing being crap, but they can't just reverse a decision in one day, because the decision to go with Boeing was made years or decades ago.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

The real reason is that airlines don’t want a monopoly where there’s only one relevant manufacturer that can dictate airframe prices to them. That’s why you will see almost every airline trying to at least somewhat balance the scales between Airbus and Boeing.

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

they probably already bought too many of Boeing planes before these accidents happened. So what are they gonna do, put a bunch of Boeing planes in the back room and use Airbus? Still when i fly, I avoid Boeing like a plague. The problem is there are very limited Airbus flights for my route.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I recently had the privilege of cleaning up code by a big India out sourcing company. The code quality was some of the worst I have seen in my 30 years of programming. Then I found [this article] (https://www.industryweek.com/supply-chain/article/22027840/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers) about the same company writing code for Boeing.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that was a horrifying read as a software engineer but also as an Indian.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The company I work for did end up hiring many of the temp engineers from the company in that article, and the ones hired are some great coworkers, but there were many we didn’t hire.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago

A rich executive put the lives of others below penny pinching profits?

I'm shook. 🫩

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 119 points 2 days ago (15 children)
[–] griff@lemmings.world 35 points 2 days ago

Boeing…Boeing…Gone!

[–] match@pawb.social 30 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Boeing: the sound a plane makes when it hits the ground

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sounds like the planes Boeing sent to India had foreign object debris rattling around inside conduits.

That’s a ticking time bomb for random electrical failures, such as both engines shutting down right after takeoff.

If it was from electrical failure, it'd be more likely to happen in the pilot's thrust control than simultaneously in both engines. But usually if both engines fail after take off....my money is on fuel system failure.

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[–] dinren@discuss.online 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

BOEING KILLED JOHN BARNETT

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[–] wiLD0@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Boeing is run too much by Wall Street.

[–] EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Black Rock basically owns the entire stock market. Even the best intentioned companies eventually have to cave to fiduciary duty to shareholders.

[–] kayky@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

That's why going public is a sign the owners no longer care about the business and only care about fleecing us as much as possible.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Black Rock owns absolutely fuck-all. It only manages the 401ks of normal people like you and me, and STOLE OUR SHAREHOLDER VOTING RIGHTS.

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