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Title says it all
If I were you I’d send this to some media outlets. Tank some AI stock and create some more negative news around it.
I mean... Ben 10 is in the corner there...
there's plausible denia... nah i got nothin. That's messed up. Even for the most mundane, non-gross use case imaginable, why the fuck would anybody need a creepy digital facsimile of a child?
I mean, maaaybe if you wanted children and couldn't have them. But why would it need to be "beautiful and up for anything"?
"beautiful and up for anything" is incredibly suggestive phrasing. It's an exercise in mental creativity to make it sound not creepy. But I can imagine a pleasant grandma (always the peak of moral virtue in any thought experiment) saying this about her granddaughter. I don't mean to say I have heard this, only that I can imagine it. Barely.
And the bot has 882.9k chats.
Im not surprised and I dont think you or anyone else is either. But that doesn't make this less disturbing.
Im sure thw app devs are not interested in cutting off a huge chunk of their loyal users by doing the right thing and getting rid of those types of bots.
Yes, its messed up. In my experience, it is difficult to report chat bots and see any real action taken as a result.
Ehhh nah. As someone who used character.ai before there are many horrible bots that get cleared and the bots have been impossible to have sex with unless you get really creative. The most horrendous ones get removed quite a bit and were consistently reposted. I'm not here to shield a big company or anything, but the "no sex" thing was a huge thing in the community and they always fought with the devs about it.
They're probably trying to hide behind the veil of more normal bots now, but I struggle to imagine how they'd get it to do sexual acts, when some lightly violent RPs I tried to do got censored. It's pretty difficult, and got worse over time. Idk though, I stopped using it a while ago.
Stop using an app that allows this shit.
ready for anything? That's fucking revolting.
They definitely knew who they were targeting when they made this. I only hope that, if those predators simply must text with a child, they keep talking to an ai bot rather than a real child.
As gross as it is. Let the weirdos get it out with ai instead of being weird to real people.
I agree in principle, but look at the number of interactions. I think there's a fine line between creating safe spaces for urges and downright promoting and normalizing criminal activity. I don't think this should be a) this accessible and b) happening without psychiatric supervision. But maybe I'm being too judgemental
Total aside, what does your username mean/stand for?
CooKieMoNSTeR :D
CocKMoNSTeR
Hundred percent. It feels pretty fucking thought-crimey to vilify the people who use these services.
Probably
I don't even know why I'm shocked..
Yes it's what you think it is. I don't think, however, that there is anywhere to report it that will care enough to do something about it.
News outlets.
Yep. I dick around on a similar platform because a friend built it.
The amount of shit I've reported is insane. Pedos just keep coming back with new accounts. Even with warnings and banned words, they find a way.
Yep. I dick around
Very poor choice of words.
Not all dicks are adjacent to children.
Its ok its for harambe trust
What. The. Bloody. Fuck.
Fire at will!
What else would it be?
Just a friendly childlike free spririt ready to talk about girl stuff!
/s for real though, it is totally the evil thing
I've got a couple ads for an AI chat on Android, can't remember the name but it has a disclaimer onscreen that reads something like "All characters shown are in their grown-up form", implying that there are teen or child forms that you can communicate with.
nah that likely implies that the children form was rejected by censors so its an adult version now
I saw something similar! Reported it to Google ads and of course they "couldn't find any ToS violations"
As long as they get paid, there's no TOS violation. Bloody wankers
Edit: changed a word to make it less vile
I've messed around with some of these apps out of curiosity of where the technology is. There's typically a report function in the app. You can probably report that particular bot from within the app to try and get that bot deleted. Reporting the app itself probably won't do much.
Unfortunately in a lot of places there's really nothing illegal if it's just fantasy and text.
why is that unfortunate though? who would you be protecting by making that chatbot illegal? would you "protect" the chatbot? would you "protect" the good-think of the users? do you think it's about preventing "normalization" of these thoughts?
in case of the latter: we had the very same discussion with shooter-video-games and evidence shows that shooter games do not make people more violent or likely to kill with guns and other weapons.
I don't think it's the same discussion, video games and AI chatbots are two very different things that you engage with in very different ways.
If you suspect any wrongdoing, it's generally the best to report such things.They have several different social media channels at the bottom of the website.
They have a contact form here: https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new
And it looks like it's a US company, so they better comply with US law.
Do not complain to scummy companies, they will ignore you. Send messages to the media and police.
I'd say do complain to companies first, at least to those based in a regular country, and only then blog about it. Also underlines your point if you write, I informed them but they didn't care.
I believe it's the other way around if it's really shady and/or crime involved and you suspect the company to sweep it under the carpet. So you'll want to inform the police first so they can gather evidence. But don't waste their resources with minor things. They have enough to do. And I think this one isn't cutting it yet, so I wouldn't add it to the workload of already overworked police.
Judging by what I've seen when talking to police and media, they often also lack interest or time to focus on some random things as long as there's bigger fish to fry... I've already reported a worse service (which was already in the news) to the internet office of the police, and nothing ever came of it. So that's sometimes not the solution either.
I think spreading some awareness is a good thing, so this post is warranted. But what I'd do in this specific case is take a screenshot and save the URL, in case I want to escalate things at a later date. But then start with a regular report to the company, as they seem to be a regular company registered in the USA. And then I'd wait 2 weeks before bothering other people.
If this was an image or video generator, I'd act differently and maybe go straight to the police. But it isn't.
I disagree. This will only result in reactive moderation. If you want them to take this seriously and stop this before these bots go live then shame them on the internet. Don't think that they don't know what's going on on their own site. These websites profit from taking delayed action.
In an ideal world, yes. But we already have 500 journalistic articles about Character ai. Probably countless social media posts. And it's literally on their Wikipedia article. The likely outcome is nothing, the journalists won't even bother writing yet another acticle about the same thing. And at best we'll end up with the 501st article. All the while the content is still up unless someone listens to me and also reports it. What OP seems to have done. (I'm making up the numbers, but it's really a lot of different articles.)
I think what we need to do is sue them. And people already did, and they were forced to implement moderation. I think we now need to follow up on that, report content and make them follow up on it. I think that's a necessary step before the next article can be written or the next lawsuit starts. It's far from perfect. But it is how it is.
Of course, continue to spread awareness and write about it. Just be aware this likely has next to no impact on the world at this point in time. But yeah, it's difficult to do the right thing here. Your guess is as good as mine.
Thanks, will do!
Okiepoke, c'mon man, not cool.