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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 85 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"They have backed up their genocidal rhetoric with a program to develop nuclear weapons."

Netanyahu's not in the best position to accuse others of genocidal rhetoric backed up with powerful weaponry.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

No need to change nukes to weaponry, Israel has nukes too.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

It's good old Projection: every accusation is an admission.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Are they running out of people to murder in Gaza? Or do they just need someone to fight back, so they can look oppressed?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Neither. Internal politics in Israel threatened to break up the government, and starting a war with Iran was the easiest way to stop that. Can't break up the government now, we're in a state of emergency!

Bibi would sooner burn down all of Israel than step down from power.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep, exactly this. He'd rather destroy the entire country than lose power, in part because as soon as he loses power he's likely going to prison for the rest of his life.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago

Sounds familiar...

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The moment they stop fighting is the moment they have to collectively come to terms with what they have done as a nation. Netanyahoo has to keep it going.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Netanyahoo lmao

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The US is obligated by law, to keep sending them weapons in order to maintain a "qualitative military edge" against all potential threats. This unfortunately incentivizes Israel to maintain a high threat level, in order to increase the amount of weapons it receives.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

obligated by law, to keep sending them weapons

Can you expand on that?

There are agreements but to which extent are they binding? I guess they are not unconditional.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

This explains it in better detail than I could. It isn't so much a single law, but rather a lot of different laws that all work together to ensure that Israel is given everything it could possibly need for its own defense...even bypassing normal regulatory measures in the process, as long as certain conditions are maintained.

Israel has invested tens of millions of dollars lobbying for, and helping to write, the legislation that guarantees their continuous access to weapons. A lot of it is written directly into defense spending bills that are essential for domestic defense spending as well. So, without a massive shift in policy at the legislative level to disentangle those priorities, that support is legally binding.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

The US is obligated by law,

Yea, that's a law we passed, right? One which we could repeal, too?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"By law". It's just a convenient excuse for genocidal immorality. It's not like words on paper matter to anyone in power in the West, you'd definitely be blind to think otherwise.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You had me in the first sentence; not gonna lie. The second one, though, just goes off the rails.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"The West" is a bit too broad don't you think.

I think that's blinkered, if not blind. Definitely.

And that username... (edit: oh look they just changed it from "ArgumentativeMonotheist" to "YappyMonotheist")

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

Trump started all this shit when he ruined the last nuclear deal in his first term.

He sure is great at fucking everything up, and sowing chaos.

[–] pixelkitty@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wonder if this is what the US missiles redirected from Ukraine went to….

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Lol, but the media keeps saying... "Trump was against this! He was trying to work with Iran "

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

There isn't a dearth of missiles. This is just another convenient excuse to weaken Ukraine.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Zionist regime is a rogue state. It threatens the security of mankind.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately it also has the backing of a much larger rogue state.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Here are the global knock-on effects of Trumpism. The world has been afraid of this for years. And mind you, it's not because the USA is losing its grip, its role of world police. It's because of fucked-up diplomacy dominated by egomania, backing the wrong allies in the wrong way. And being so dumb that you're easily exploitable.

I'm sorry for once again seeing every conflict through USian eyes - Americans do that well enough by themselves - but in this case it's just true. Fuck Trump, Fuck Netanyahu. Let's hope this nightmare ends soon.


From the article:

A U.S. official told CNN that the United States had no involvement or assistance in the Israeli strikes

Um, sure. No involvement at all during the last 8 decades.

And Netanyahu:

"This is a clear and present danger to Israel's very survival. 80 years ago the Jewish people were the victims of a holocaust perpetrated by the Nazi regime. Today, the Jewish state refuses to be a victim of a nuclear holocaust, perpetrated by the Iranian regime."

‌ Of course they stick to that one however nonsensical it has become, considering Israel is the Nazi regime now, inflicting its own holocaust on others.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You make it sound like slavish devotion to Israel isn't bipartisan.

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Because the State department policy is bipartisan because the hegemony is bipartisan

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aw.

Did we get too close to getting along again?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You think Iran, the country that supplies weapons to

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Anyone else shitting themselves about this?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is this going to lead to WW3?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this is WW3. Just more like FFA rather than teams.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone please explain why two middle eastern states trying to annihilate each other is WW3.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget Ukraine and Russia. That's why it's more FFA.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Will not, world war cost a lot for the country involved, this might just be another regional war and proxy war combined.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

That's 3 countries and Palestine, which is also a country in my book.

"Defense"

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Crazy that within just a couple weeks Ukraine and now Israel have successfully smuggled drones into a country. Terrifying new vector of war.

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nowhere mentioned that israel used smuggled drones.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Sorry I read that in a different report here: https://apnews.com/article/iran-explosions-israel-tehran-00234a06e5128a8aceb406b140297299

Israel’s military said about 200 aircraft were involved in the initial attack on about 100 targets. Two security officials said the country’s Mossad spy agency was also able to position explosive drones inside Iran ahead of time and then activate them to target missile launchers at an Iranian base near Tehran.

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