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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

At least true crime youtubers won't have to bleep half their videos anymore /s

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Free speech" under capitalism means the freedom to promote fascism, rascism, misogyny, homophobia, genocide, etc...

But if you post half a second of a Disney movie, your account will be permanently deleted.

[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Great, now that 50% of a video can be a direct call for genocide, does that at LEAST mean I can use ONE instance of a "bad" word or speak of "icky" things like death and drug abuse without being demonized?

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Introducing: Pay More, Say More

Surely this can't become deeply problematic for the social fabric.

[–] The2b@lemmy.vg 196 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is just going to be used to allow fascist propaganda, isn't it?

[–] bimbimboy@lemm.ee 79 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

yes, surprising a total of 0 people.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I am Jack’s lack of surprise.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (9 children)

And still block curse words and specific terms. Fuck this place

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[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Yep. It's exactly what Facebook did not long ago. It's just the most open oligarchy you can imagine, just consolidating their interests to push fascism at full throttle.

Its gonna be interesting, knowing some world cup is gonna happen on US soil as well.

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I assume you mean fascist propaganda over and above the right wing rabbit holes that already exist on YouTube….

Ugh, this is terrible.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Intention: YouTubers can stop with the whole self censoring shit.

Example: Unaliving; PDF file; grape; etc.

Reality: Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and other right wing grifters receive zero censorship while YouTubers still have to self censor to receive monetization.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Actual reality: Right-wing grifters are already on a "whitelist", as long as they also talk about lower taxes, lessening regulations and worker's protections, and also got popular enough. Source: knew a former moderator for Google.

[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

whitelist vs discovered the algorithm, same thing really.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

YouTube started to censor foss content for being violet and dangerous.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

for being violet

But what if it was chartreuse?

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 19 points 2 days ago

They won't ever say it out loud but they have always removed videos for mentioning alternative frontends or other technology they view as direct threats to their revenue stream.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How long before Google locks YT down only to Chrome on Windows, Mac, ChromeOS, or Android, and blocks it from loading at all on non-Chrome browsers and on Linux or iOS, blocks it from loading at all if ad blockers, including hardware-based ad blockers ala PiHole, are implemented, and enforces hardware security measures ala TPM2 for authentication, and ensures that no one can download and re-upload YT vids, with DRM?

Basically, I wouldn't put it above them to ensure their video platform only runs on their browser, on hardware and OS platforms they deem worthy of running it, even down to somehow implementing a Vanguard-style rootkit.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they are working on it

don't worry, they didn't abandon it. they have continued development hidden from sight in the android version of the chromium engine

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Intention: YouTubers can stop with the whole self censoring shit.

lol. that's not the intention.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Moderators were previously told to remove videos if one-quarter or more of the content violated YouTube policies. Now, that limit has been increased to half.

This seems like alien speak to me. They announce that shit, someone read it, and then repeated it in an article. But what does it mean?

Can you have 6 contents and make 2 really crazy? Can you tell people to commit violence for 5 minutes and then review a game for 6 minutes? Is there a dude with tvtropes open going through and marking the contents of content?

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I've worked for TnS at a different company.

I would guess it is likely per video, or they have multiple types of review going over it on a per video basis and then also maybe the channel as a whole?

So you could have half of any video contain the violating content, and it would be clear.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It depends on who is being targeted.

If you make a video calling for attacks on women, palestinians, gay people, etc., that's all good!

If you talk about taxing rich people, that's extreme violence. Immediate ban.

[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

Can we talk about adblockers, or is that still somehow worse than nazi shit?

Btw they removed a popular Youtuber's "Degoogle Your Life" series lmfao (Linus Tech Tips). But a far-right thinnly-veiled racist video? All a'okay according to Google.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

See the issue here is Google/Youtube still get to be the ones to decide what "may outweigh the harm risk". And the answer I bet will usually be whichever one serves their financial interests.

Which on one hand sure, it is their platform after all. But don't do me dry and claim you used lube.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I still wouldn't trust Google not to nuke my channel on a whim even in spite of those relaxed moderation rules. What's stopping a little bribe from the right company or political party from causing them to backpedal or even tighten their grip further?

This is why one should at least mirror their content to PeerTube or a similar alternative platform like that even if they're not going to just outright post future content to said alternative and give up on YT altogether.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

they dont need to nuke your channel, they just bury your videos with thier algorithim, this is what pushed many smaller content creators off youtube in the pass. a channel i used to follow, i would have to painstakingly search it through other videos that arnt even related to it.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I agree. We've seen enough times in the past where a creator would get a strike from a video several years old because the rules changes. Anyone legit should be careful.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

i saw that on a channel i used to follow, they were getting strike so they had to take it down. kinda hoping they would give them the last strike, because turned into trump loving shitheels

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Slope's Game Room is about to lose his channel over 'hate speech' that isn't even his. One more reason for me to not post any future video content to YT if I ever seriously get into making vids and instead just posting everything to PeerTube where it at least isn't in danger of getting nuked because Google got pissed at me.

Update: he got to keep his channel. Still one more reason to not put any future content on YT should I pick up video content creation though.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in 34 points 2 days ago

If only half of that leniency were granted to selfhosting tools and adblockers

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

They opened their doors to the goose stepping. Fucking corporate shitheads.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

We will (still) allow children's cartoon characters to be mutilated and put into explicit situations and then push them as child friendly, but how dare you use a swear in the first 15 seconds of a video or say the work kill.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I like freedom of speech but it seems like it would be pretty difficult to weigh those things against one another. what is the metric that they have in common? I don't know that there is one

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is such bad news. I'm sympathetic to content creators who have to step on eggshells to please the algorithm/advertisers... But this?

Yeah, this is not that. We all know who this is for.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

almost all the right wing contents get pushed to the front. there are some that are also rw that is buried by the algorithim, because they are loud mouths, i wonder if this will change for them too.,

[–] Twoafros@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This sucks but I think this will lead to a Youtube exodus and other platforms like Peertube will creator and user base will grow

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

when the site becomes a 100% right wing echo chamber people will flee it.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

How many people have even heard of peertube?

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Wait what??? This came out of nowhere ??

YouTube not cracking down on free speech??

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Videos are allowed if "freedom of expression value may outweigh harm risk"

oh it's that easy huh. why didn't we think of this before lol.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

youtube shadowbanning, demonitization and censorship is the most retarded shit that's ever happened to the internet. the whole website is videos and comments of people who cater to kids and commercial advertisers and cant say shit.

They really are killin' everything, aren't they...

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

I'm gessing that's not gonna positively impact the people i watch and instead go towards some dumb shits.

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