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The EU's HLG (High Level Group) now considers VPNs among “key challenges” to investigative work.

End-to-end encryption is also mentioned in the final report as the biggest technical challenge

Experts are calling for restraint and consideration on the measures, fearing civilians will carry “state spyware in their pockets”

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I'll buy a VPN from asia, the middle east, Africa or south america then in that case.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

most of them moved onto using more sophisticated proxies, and anti-detect browsers, vpn is old news.

[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let me guess those lawmakers themselves will communicate with uncompromised encryption, it is only everyone else that will require a backdoor making all data passing essentially unencrypted. For a second guess let me suggest those lawmakers will not imagine themselves in any way personally responsible for all the data lost by individuals as a result of their proposed measures.

[–] xzot746@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

Rules for thee and all of that...

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

last time I checked it was still kept in secret who are the members of the HLG

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Calling it now: before the end of this decade, doing anything (legit) online will require users to verify with a government-backed identity solution provider. Both in EU and US (and therefore de facto everywhere it matters).

Maybe then we'll finally get a cool separate web with hackers and neuromancers and whatnot. Probably not.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll join some kind of neo-Amish community and live without the Internet before I put up with a shitty Internet that's locked down to that extent.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m down with that. The internet has made humanity worse overall even if it makes life more convenient. It’s a Pandora’s box we weren’t ready for yet.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The internet isn't what turned everything to shit. That was capitalism. Technology of and by itself is never evil, but of course there's always tons of people ready to use it for evil purposes. Our current 'big bad' is still simply capitalism though.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our form of capitalism is driven by technology

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

No. Capitalists use technology to further their goals. Technology has no agency, makes no decisions, and is not a philosophy. It is literally just knowledge. Capitalism and human bad actors are literally the problem as they have been for all of recorded history. This is also seen in other primate species like baboons who are able to live relatively peaceful and low-stress lives when they organize in cooperative, pro-social troops.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"lawmakers" seem like an inappropriate term for the kind of enemies of the general population who usually demand these kinds of measures.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

we should call them terrorists before they tag us as terrorists. Because that's what they are.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How about just thinking about shit? Can that be private?

Einstein thought about relativity in his mind. And Hiroshima happened.

I want to think about reproductive organs and their proper use. Is that legal?

Thought crimes are next on the todo list. Why do you think we want your AGI logs?

[–] termaxima@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If they manage to make VPNs illegal (or force them to log), I will just stop using the internet altogether.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] thisisnotmyhat@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody do this. It's completely ruined my CoD rank.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The latency is shit but the bandwidth is surprisingly good.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Can't wait for it to be illegal to have a custom ROM Android with some FOSS messenger in your pocket and then for the first major breach, leaking all private messenges of some rich motherfuckers ending the practice again

When will these fucking idiots give up? Like we're ever going to give up privacy? Yeah, right after self-determination, you fucks.

[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

EU investigators not happy with arresting as many people as they currently do. Gotta be locking lots of people up.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Roll you own vpn