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When I say dead users, I mean ones who have been banned, suspended, or deleted (probably after they got banned). I see this so often when browsing posts, and it is so reflective of the problems I have been faced with as well. I'll be scrolling through a post, and sometimes unironically like 50% of all comments have the stupid little profile picture with its back turned, and when I hover over it it has either been suspended or deleted.

I have been having major issues where I've basically been permanently wiped off the platform over some bullshit permaban and can't get it appealed, and it is just shocking that so many other people are obviously just getting completely swept away by these same bullshit bans. How is Reddit going to survive like this? It's to the point where any sort of long-term engagement on the site just seems impossible because soon enough the CIA-level, all seeing AI will catch you in its net and then you're done.

Even if they miraculously change their system to not have the world's most oppressive ban system, what happens to everyone who's already been banned? Will a decent percentage of the entire platform just be fucked for life because they were on the platform at the wrong place and the wrong time?

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

[Reads all these stories]

Wow, I'm glad I left during the API debacle. Getting banned for an unpopular good-faith post is so frustrating, especially if it's about something important like Gaza.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Free palest.... Oh got banned.

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

And yet Ghislaine Maxwell’s account isn’t banned…

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you mean a virtual or figurative wasteland. A literal one is a geographical regionwith little or no vegetation or animals.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The definition of literally has ben changed to mean either literally or figuratively. It's sad.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I really think that's temporary tho, I don't see it sprinkled Literally Everywhere like say 5 years ago.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Literally" literally means "as written", or "in the literature".

To use the word "literally" to mean "in reality" or "in fact" is not that original meaning, but is literally - in fact, as well as a written thing - a figurative meaning.

Language changes. There are plenty of words that are their own antonyms. It's not sad, it's inevitable, and the sooner you can accept that the sooner you can avert the fate of becoming an old man yelling at clouds.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a new word that means what literally used to, or do we just have two figurativelys now?

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 hours ago

Actually, factually, in truth, for real, fr, no joke, seriously, absolutely, in fact, truly, truthfully, really, in reality, literally, I couldn't tell you, because only you can figure out how to say what you want to say, and if you didn't already know that there are countless ways to say that, that makes me wonder if you actually care very much about the topic, for realsies, in actuality. All you need to do is spend a few seconds thinking of another way to say it and you can answer your own question.

It's language. If course we have ways of saying things, that's what it's for. Also you can say "literally" to mean "actually" as long as you understand how to say it in context, and the fact that you can correct people who you believe are using it wrong is a sign that you can tell the difference and you don't need to correct them.

And if we don't have a way of saying something, you can invent one, because that's how language works. People who tell you that there's some authoritative measure by which we know what words mean don't actually care about language. They're trying to kill our language, because a living language can't be controlled like they want. The good news is that it's impossible to achieve that goal.

Like if you're not going around lamenting the fact that "terrific" doesn't mean "terrifying" anymore then maybe it's okay if words change. It sounds like you survived that particular tragedy.

[–] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also completely crawling with bots, many of the banned accounts were bots.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

And crawling with propaganda accounts.

Check out any political thread or ones about ICE.

I recently saw a thread about ICE where locals started to revolt and protest against ICE being in the neighbourhood. The thread is filled is "removed by reddit" comments and other propaganda account telling people basically not to rise up. Saying things like "They want violence so they can declare martial law. Don't give them what they want."

Reddit deletes posts promoting standing up for their freedoms and leaves the ones saying bend over and spread your ass cheeks.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reddit's started it's death spiral. It's all downhill from here. Try starting communities here that don't exist yet and crosspost stuff

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Lemmy is reddit on a little delay, we already have right wing activist mods causing trouble with zero consequence

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lemmy is reddit on a little delay, we already have right wing activist mods causing trouble with zero consequence

Good thing lemmy is decentralized then and no single person can ban you and make it stick.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's maybe 2 instances with any activity, getting banned from there essentially cuts you out of 80% of the conversations

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Which two? Our feeds apparently look different. Is .world defederated from a lot of instances?

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There are always going to be bad people, but Lemmy will always be decentralized unlike Reddit. Technically you could spin up a new instance that doesn’t federate with the instances you are trying to avoid.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah but knowing my reputation it'll be defederated by everyone anyway

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Structurally it's easy to avoid being under their boot heel

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[–] Ghosthacked@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Their algo keeps permabanning me if I use their Reddit app. I used to bypass it by using patched 3rd party clients, but I'm too old for that nonsense now. I just don't post or do anything on Reddit anymore

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

iirc the app keeps your hardware ID stored. you can bypass it with a browser but reddit is going down the drain there's no point.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Can't get banned if you don't sign up, just lurk.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They banned and nuked all 4 of my accounts ranging from 8yrs to 2yrs old after posting this about 3 weeks ago.

[–] tartaruga@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I was permabanned from Reddit, just for saying, "stomp Nazis." After this, I deleted the app entirely. I had issues prior to this. Posts I had carefully written and spent time writing, were deleted for using the word "target," and the word, "shoot." Both posts had zilch to do with guns or violence. Saying, "oh, shoot" about a funny autocorrect deleted my post. All this censorship, but somehow right wing trolls were still getting away with being jerks to me?! Wtf! Now I think the app is the most heavily censored thing I have ever encountered. It's unusable, it's so censored. What am I supposed to do? Go back and say, "spank Nazis," instead? At a minimum, it would confuse the message and at worst, I'd get banned for saying that. No, I'm mad at Reddit & I'm never going back.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

thats such a miniscule reason to ban someone that it makes my silly ban seem reasonable

I pissed off a mod on a large sub and got a ban for "ban evasion" (BS, i only had 1 account)
I later deleted and recreated my account to change the name I chose when I was like 13 (I kept being called a furry) and forgot to block the large sub and accidentally sent a comment when browsing r/all

at that point I was like 50/50 with Lemmy so I just hopped all the way over and it's been about a year since :)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

I kept being called a furry

And obviously you're more of a slimey, eh TriflingToad?

[–] modernangel@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What happens to everyone who's been silenced on that platform is hopefully they contribute to other social media that aren't blatantly pro-fash

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yah I've been perma banned over what I don't even know, and Reddit won't even let me make another account, sadly there's more users and specific subreddits there with relevant posts that I want to engage with but I can't. I'm hoping this get worse and worse on reddit so that most of the current users jump ship to lemmy

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Everything I've seen has indicated that it is spiralling pretty hard. It seems like it is just bots and Facebook level users now.

[–] HuskerNation@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're going to try to push bot traffic, while keeping actual user numbers hidden. Then dump the stock before saying they banned all their users or someone leaks it. Personally I would like an investigative journalist look into their ban system and do a hit piece.

The site 15 years ago was great, yes there was trolling, you could call people a asshat, but it was still a good site. Now none of that stuff flies, no joking alowed, it's like msn comments section. They killed what made reddit great and it was never at the level of 4 chan incels. In fact there quite a few social causes that did some good, all that's gone. It's just regurgitated shit.

It's no small amount of people who have been permabanned and it's happening more and more. Some of the oldest accounts are just gone. I gave up even trying to get around it.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

I had my first account for a decade. My next two didn't last a year. I don't think I'll going back. Lemmy doesn't have niche communities really quite yet but for tech news it's arrived

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Why is this surprising?

There is a life cycle to social media.

Reddit is approaching Myspace levels of out-of-touch. But that's to be expected. Reddit sold out and went public corporation. That means everything that they do is 100% centered around making profit for shareholders. A board of rich assholes listen to the same tech assholes that killed off every single other media platform in existence. Why? To make a buck. To squeeze the penny so hard, at the expense of content, users, posts, subreddits, that the penny squeezes out an extra $0.0000001.

Content is ruined, but who cares? Another nerd will come along and make another one. Businessmen don't care about the content of a bunch of randos. They care about gutting everything and selling pieces of it off for as much as possible, then eventually selling it off to a control-freak billionaire.

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

My pet theory is that Reddit is trying the battleship steel approach. Let me explain: Battleships sunk before the end of WWII are special, in that their steel has never been exposed to the radiation from nuclear blasts. That is important in a series of applications, so there is a market for that kind of steel, and obviously it's a very limited resource.

Reddit has one of the biggest collections of purely human-generated text that is not domain-specific. That is an incredibly valuable resource, especially now that we know that LLMs hallucinate worse if they are fed LLM-generated content.

I am thinking Reddit is planning to sell that text for the long haul, until changes in language and technology make the content irrelevant. What actually happens on the platform is not important anymore, as long as it doesn't cause the ire of the powerful.

In fact, at this point, Reddit has a vested incentive in making the Internet worse, which means banning real humans from Reddit, too. Current Reddit content is not valuable, because of course it contains lots of bot generation, so making it visibly worse is a quick way to make the old content more valuable.

Basically, the company plans on getting rich on the backs of yesterday's you and I.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

take my gold

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[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I just stopped using Reddit after they broke all the good mobile apps. But your comment makes me think that I should log on and run one of those scripts to overwrite my old comments with garbage.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 2 days ago

This is a bit funny... Reddit wiped any critical thinking from there few years back and the normies were fine... Then they came for the normies and there is nobody left lol

Or some such thing.

Anyways reddit is not a place for discussion anymore, reddit is where the stupid get their programming

Same way fox news does with "conservative" boomer

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[–] BMW_stick@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I was banned for talking bad about the current administration, I then deleted my account. Ridiculous stuff.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

I don't think greedy pig boy cares, he got his money.

[–] RedditAdminsSuckIt@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I had my account of 12 years permabanned a few days ago. Never had an issue ever before the other day.

Wasn’t doing anything out of the ordinary.

Reddit wants each sub to be an echo chamber of repeated comments, they basically want to be 2013 Imgur.

Viewing the post and scrolling is the level of engagement that matters to them. That alone generates revenue. Comments better fall in line

At least that’s my two cents. I’m a Reddit Renegade not an admin

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