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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's so weird. There's still so much shame in Germany for what they did during the second world war, yet now they are actively supporting genocide again and have propaganda laws concerning Israel, as Israel and zionism are now under the anti-antisemitic law. Well done Germany, I guess you never change.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Germany has always been a big supporter of Zionism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

This is from before the Holocaust started, so I doubt the underlying reason for their support is guilt for the Holocaust.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Germany is ashamed for committing genocide 80 years ago yet now they are doing it again by sending weapons to Israel. And they are covering it up by criminalizing news about it.

I'm not saying their guilt is the reason for doing it again, I'm saying it makes no sense as they always said they would do anything to prevent it to ever happen again.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

There's no shame, there's guilt pride. They are jumping right to that, not giving you an option of telling them they haven't repented yet or maybe that they are repenting the wrong way, or not repenting at all.

It seems really rare to meet an ashamed German.

They are not ashamed of Namibia, just like Belgium is not ashamed of Kongo. That whole "genocidal colonialism is past us" thing was wishful thinking, it was quickly assumed to be already fulfilled and now Europeans judge you for reminding them what their ancestors did and what their nations are doing now, just by Israel's hands or Turkey's or someone else.

[–] lerba@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

I can't find anything from the article warranting this headline.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

If it had Zero Effect then Israel wouldn't spend so much time and money trying to stop it from happening.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Laschet, the chairman of the foreign affairs committee in the Bundestag, Germany's lower house of parliament, said the new conservative-led government's "quiet diplomacy" and "clear words" to Israel were "more effective than constant resolutions and pithy slogans."

Yeah right. The fuck they are. And in effect he's saying the opposite of what the headline suggests.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cut off funding and impose sanctions before Germany becomes complicit in another genocide.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago

They already are. Germany should stop arming israel and impose sanction to stop their complicity

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

It is also blatantly false. Whenever Israel made some concessions in slowing down the genocide it was after a public threat by allied governments.

Germany has been sabotaging any effort for peace and is now claiming it would have been the one responsible if there is any success. It would be laughable if they weren't complicit in committing genocide.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago