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My First Homelab (media.piefed.social)
submitted 13 hours ago by Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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I'm new to this, and having a lot of fun.

I started with the Blackview MP80 running Ubuntu(Minecraft server on docker and Home Assistant in a VM)

Then I bought the BMAX for 82€ and moved HA on to it so I can wipe the MP80 and play around with Proxmox and Nextcloud erc without breaking my home automations.

Yesterday I got the Hardkernel H4+ with 16gb ram and 2x 6TB 2nd hand commercial grade HDD's (testing them now, 3 month guarantee)

Looking forward to setting up ZFS pools for the first time, ans probably move my Nextcloud AIO over to the TrueNAS app

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 26 minutes ago

Strap them onto a scrap piece of wooden board for stability. You could then hang the board vertically to save space.

This sort of metal strapping works great:

[–] sxan@midwest.social 17 points 8 hours ago

TBH what I saw first is that you connected a fan to some hard drives and called it a homelab.

It was pretty funny for the half second it lasted.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 29 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Just so you know, operating spinning drives this way is a bad idea. If the platters are spinning and the drive tips over, the rotation of the drives resists the movement. This gyroscopic force is enough for the platters to touch the heads which are flying a tiny distance above the platter. Obviously this is a bad thing and will damage the drives.

A quick fix is to just lay them flat or fix both of them together so they have a more stable base to stand on. Putting it in an enclosure is even better.

[–] ashaman2007@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah knocking them over while active would probably not be the best, you can even hear the stress on the spindle bearings if you rotate a running hard drive. However you should be free to mount them (securely) in almost any orientation given the discussion in this old post: https://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21533&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You gotta embrace the jank! Also, he's got them in some kind of stand. That looks reasonably stable to me.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I love my janky temporarily solution.

I made a stand of old ikea plastic parts I had laying around, screwed them together and have both drives supported from both sides and connected together.

If I directly bump the drive hard enough they'd fall, but I'm pretty confident I can shake the table really hard and they'll be fine.

I'm hoping to get a 3D printer to make a more permanent solution

[–] GetAwayWithThis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks for the feedback! I am doing the opposite right now funnily enough. Trying to move away from having everything on Truenas as an app because of the host-app communication limitations. I have a bridge network set up but it still has its issues.

I'll need to get some hardware to make this happen. At least to have a PCIe SATA controller I can pass through to a TrueNas VM so I can have everything on one physical host.

Nextcloud is on the list to try. For now syncthing was fixed up for filesync from my shoddy implementation of it yeras ago.

[–] dieTasse@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

I have recently moved adguard and home assistant to raspberry pi, same reason, though the hass I have moved into docker container with host network in the end. I also installed tailscale directly to have easy setup as an exit node.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago

Nice good luck!! I think I'm going to keep NextcloudAIO as is, not having everything in one place feels better and safer.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Nooooo! Don't shake the table!

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

lol I won't those HDD's are like my babies, I'm very careful with them, that temporary stand while not foolproof is solid, but I have no plans of testing it out now that the drives are in there

[–] 4k93n2@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

wrap a nappy around them. that will help reduce any vibrations haha

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago

Thanks this is a very temporary solution until I can 3D print a better solution or buy an better temporary solution.

It's pretty stable I have a make shift stand, and I'd have to bump them pretty hard for them to fall over. If I shake the table hard they definitely won't fall

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

2x 6TB 2nd hand commercial grade HDD’s

wow. I was wondering what these five inch tanks were. Haven't seen one in a while.

Also spinning drives should be stored either horizntally or vertically for all their life.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Watch out for the slippery slope!

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Way too late, I'm down the rabbit hole

[–] Cargon@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I started with something like what you have, and 8 years later I have an 18U cabinet that is completely full. Including 20 HDDs stuck all over the place with double-sided tape.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

It's a slippery slope

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Give this man a rack, now!

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I love nice racks

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

If he doesn't want it, I'll take it! 🤣

[–] dash_jackson@lemmy.ca 12 points 12 hours ago

Homelabbing is fun..stay curious

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 4 points 11 hours ago

Have fun. :)

Side note: Never look at LXC/incus or home assistant or esp32 to attach. Rabbit holes everywhere.

[–] GetAwayWithThis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How's your Nextcloud holding up now? I am undecided between a separate host vs the Truenas app. I heard that the TN app likes to break on update but I didn't have the time nor infrastructure to test it thoroughly yet.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

Currently I have Nextcloud-AIO running on proxmox in a docker LXC and it's been great, very stable and I like the setup. It's also officially supported by Nextcloud.

I'm considering moving it over to TrueNAS but I need to look at the Pros and Cons, it would be nice to have everything in one place, but that also comes with drawbacks and risks.

[–] justpassingby@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is the way

[–] dieTasse@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago

I have spoken

[–] generaldenmark@programming.dev 4 points 12 hours ago

This looks so good! Nice job

[–] imakestupidjokes@mastodon.nu 1 points 11 hours ago

@Ek-Hou-Van-Braai I absolutely love it.