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RCV trends: Four states ban RCV in 2025, bringing the number of states with bans to 15.

(Okay idk why it says 15 up here then later says 16, somebody on that site probably didn't update the title text)

As of April 30, five states had banned RCV in 2025, which brought the total number of states that prohibit RCV to 16.

  • Gov. Mark Gordon (Republican) signed HB 165 on March 18.
  • West Virginia Gov. Patrick Morrisey (Republican) signed SB 490 the March 19.
  • Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly (Democrat) signed SB 6 into law on April 1.
  • North Dakota Gov. Kelly Armstrong (Republican) signed HB 1297 on April 15.
  • Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders (Republican) signed HB 1706 which became law on April 17.

Six states banned RCV in 2024.

Why YSK: If you're a US-American, its time to pay attention to State and Local politics instead of solely on the Federal. There is a trend in conservative jurisdictions to stop progress in making elecoral systems more fair. Use this opportunity as a rallying-cry to pass Ranked-Choice Voting in progressive jurisdictions, and hopefully everyone else takes notes. Sometimes, all you need is a few states adopting a law to become the catalyst for it to become the model for the entire country, for better or for worse. Don't allow anti-RCV legislations to dominate, counter the propaganda with pro-RCV arguments. Time to turn the tide.

Edit: fixed formatting

Edit 2: Added in the map so you don't have to click the link:

See the pattern? πŸ€”

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is a ban going to do.

It just changes the language of the acceptance bill

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We voted for it at the county level here in CA. That was back in 2020. San Diego county voted to use RCV, as did several other counties in CA. The county registrar of voters is refusing to change from FPTP, and is waiting to see how the lawsuits turn out.

Even if your state hasn't banned it, they will fight you tooth and nail not to change it.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 125 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Tl;dr

I was curious so I had to go look and see what states banned it. I was shocked, shocked I tell you to see the states that banned it are:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, West Virginia, Wyoming

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As a Texan, it's a relief to finally not be included on one of these lists for once.

[–] iceonfire1@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't be too relieved. There's a bill banning RCV that passed the Texas Senate and is being considered by the House: https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1751192

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 43 points 2 days ago

[yeehaws sadly]

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Does it also shock you that Iowa is on the short list to do the same?

https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1848744

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

At what point is a democracy not a democracy any more?

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 days ago

For the U.S., the decisive blow came with the Citizens United ruling, although it’s not unreasonable to suggest the refusal to punish Nixon during watergate signaled that the rule of law was merely a suggestion. That kicked off a whole cascade of political and legal maneuvering to get both the legislative and societal landscape into such a contortion that it would willingly hand away the entire nation to vulture-capitalists.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A better question would be "when was there ever been a true democracy?"

For me, there hasn't been. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't try. It means that we need to truly internalise that wealth and power will, if left unchecked, succeed in perverting it entirely. We need to be ever augmenting it, with that in mind, with a view to playing whack a mole with the interests of the 1% and keeping it working for the 99%.

I mean that won't work either. The rich and powerful will never allow us to simply vote away their ill beggoten wealth and power. However, at least people could say that they tried.

I don't think we'll ever have a "true" democracy.

Its like the concept of "utopia", you can get closer and closer, but never actually reach it

Like an asymptote in mathematics.

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ohio is trying to ban it this year.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I get why Gen alpha use "Ohio" to describe something bad now

God damn Skibidi Ohio polititians with no rizz, no cap fr fr, voters with brainrot smh

(sorry for the use of Gen alpha brainrot language)

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I know a number of Gen alpha kids. None of them use those phrases. They are Gen Z terms.

The oldest Gen Alpha kids are 11 and turning 12 this year

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm gen z and never heard the words "skibidi" "rizz" irl

I did hear "no cap" and "Alpha"/"Beta" tho

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many 13 year old gen-Z do you know though? A fifteen year time band encompasses a lot of people (because these are just marketing tools in reality)

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, obscenely gerrymandered Republican supermajority in the state legislature really sucks.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In MO. Voted on it last year. The ballot was intentionally worded to be misleading.

It said each person can only cast one vote. Making it sound like it was to prevent people from voting twice even though that person as already not allowed.

So dumb.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 26 points 2 days ago

They just pulled that in the Ohio House this week. They have been calling it "One Person, One Vote" and are going to withhold state funds to any municipality that uses ranked choice voting. It passed our house 22-5 iirc

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Is anybody surprised that you could replace the orange with red and have a pretty accurate election map?

What are you guys scared of? Democracy?

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Americans complain about the two party system and do absolutely nothing to change that. It's like watching a soap opera but everyone's fell of the horse and lost their memory.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

It's almost like those in power make the laws that are used to elect those in power πŸ€”

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Colorado last year RCV was on the ballot as part of an initiative. It was shot down easily because both parties campaigned against it. Not sure what to do when the weight of all incumbents is thrown against something

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Colorado, one of my wife's friends is what most people (I say this, knowing the Lemmy political scale is vastly different from most Americans) would consider super liberal. She's also very outspoken and politically active, so she has no problems telling everyone she knows how to vote on every issue.

Last election, we were at her house and she mentioned that she was against ranked choice voting. When I asked her why, she pointed to her voting guide provided by the Colorado Democratic Party. She just blindly accepts that because the party says it's bad, then it's bad.

After seeing that, it wasn't surprising to me when the proposition failed.

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Lol go to r/conservative and you'll see all those idiots having doublethink simultaneouly saying that they support term limits for congress and support for ranked-choice voting, yet continues to vote in conservatives that oppose the very policies they claim to support.

Its actually quite ridiculous. Republican legislators consistantly oppose raising the minimum wage or abortion, yet, the republican voters votes in favor of those policies, while simultaneously vote for the legislators that oppose them.

I'm just like... Why??? Why do y'all vote like this? πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

I think we should just go the Swiss-route and do direct democracy; representatives don't even represent their constituents anymore.

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[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Mainer here. Its great, except that the governor's race is specifically exempted from RCV. May have something to do with GOP former governor LePage, but can't recall before my morning meds...

Seems about right. This reinforces my reality. If something good happened to humanity, I might wonder if I somehow might be going mad.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 23 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Can anyone explain to me why a BAN was even needed? If a State is FPTP that’s the way it is; why do they need to say a different way is not allowed? Especially because of that different way were to actually be viable enough to become law it would just be a one two step - repeal the old, then institute the new.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's an attempt to proactively prevent any progressive progress.

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