Pitchford gives off some strong “do you guys not have phones” energy. He’s so out of touch it’s astounding.
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Fuck you, I'm not paying $80 for a game so an executive can get a new Porsche.
I didn’t pay anywhere near $80 for Borderlands 1-3+ all the DLC…. So um. No. I’m in no hurry.
This isn’t all the games but it goes on for like another 2 screens worth for all the DLC…
I bought the full collection last year for like $50. $20 for the first three and all DLC, and like $30 for the complete Borderlands 3 (I had gotten the other ones so decided to just get the full series).
Then I actually went and got Wonderlands and had an actual blast playing it.
This is such a scummy statement I want BL4 less now. Let him eat cake.
Idk. I think gamers are overly upset about $80 games. While I am sympathetic to not wanting the price to go up, the fact of the matter is that brand new video games cost pretty much the same as they did 30 years ago, while the cost of everything else has basically doubled in that time. I know it's probably not what is going to happen but if $80 video games are what it takes to get us away from shitty microtransactions in full price games, then I'm all for it. I know the crowd on Lemmy will just say they should make less profit and do neither but that's just not how the world works right now and nobody is going to do that.
Food for thought- here are some prices in 1996 and today
New video game: 1996- $67 (Super Mario 64), 2025- $70
McDonald's Big Mac meal: 1996- $2.45, 2025-$9.29
Base package Honda Civic: 1996- $10,360, 2025-$24,250
Average apartment - 1996- $550/mo, 2025- $1,540/mo
Median annual income- 1996- $20,109, 2025- $50,200
Doesn't one of these stand out?
And let's take this outside of the myopic view of only looking at inflation.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/video-game-industry-revenues-by-platform/
Console gaming revenue: 1996 - 7 billion, 2022 - 30 billion
Let's look at specifically Nintendo here since we're talking about Super Mario 64
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2001/011121e.pdf
2001, 664 million in profit, adjusted for inflation in 2022 dollars, 1 billion.
2022, 1.7 billion dollars in profit.
You forget that in 1996 the gaming pool was also magnitudes smaller compared to today and despite all of the whining about increased development costs, which I also think is bullshit but that's a different conversation, profits have increased to keep up.
So my opinion, no there's absolutely no justification for a 80 dollar price point when you look at the over all picture.
Or wait the number of years it takes to be on sale for $20.
Just started expedition 33. Omg. So so good!
Point is... I'll play something else.
Listen here, just wait for Menace to release (By Overhype studios) now that's a proper turn-based game
ugh. i wont even pirate it. gross
I will illegally download an illegal version of the game, thanks bye
To quote LazyTown: Yar har, fiddle de dee...
Sail the high sea! 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Im always thrown off as a Canadian when I see these headlines because we’ve been paying $80 for games for decades.
Video games haven’t risen in cost with inflation and they’re much better and bigger now so I’m not super upset, but they are now at the point where I won’t buy a game at release or full price. I think the new price here is $93 cause that’s what the new Indiana jones is going for
What I hate most is that the game actually costs $150 and they split it and give you a stripped version for $80. I think gta 4 was the last game i truly felt made sense, game releases, we buy it, story dlc comes out later we get it, transaction over. No online bullshit that tries to keep you paying money into the game without end. Not a game split into little chunks and sold as tiers at release
No one is asking them to grow x50 for every successful game they sell. Sure they have more expenses but how is it in any way relevant to the consumer? There's no shortage of studios increasing budget massively and then shitting the bed when it comes to quality and actual gameplay. They are literally doing that to themselves.
Video games haven’t risen in cost with inflation and they’re much better and bigger now
I agree with the bigger, but not better tbh
Dead Island 2 is free on Epic currently, and probably more fun than Borderlands 4; BL 3 wasn't written well, and i assume the same for BL 4. A shame, BL2 is one of my most played FPS
Find a way?
Piracy is a way. Thanks for the tip.
Yarrr Matey, they'll find a way.
Since I didn’t enjoy the handsome collection I wouldn’t buy it at any price, but even for games I do enjoy I wait until they are on sale preferably with the DLCs included
Real fan?
Bitch please. We've put up with your crap for so long and we still play it....
Get out of here with that house shit. Get fucked. Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on. At best, I'll wait for a sale, at worst, I'm never playing your goddamned franchise again because you've run it into the ground with enshittification.
The trailer for the new borderlands looked like the most soulless, boring cash grab. Anyone put much time into it yet?
If I was a real fan.
Nah na na na na na na na na
Thank you Gwen Stefani for saying all the na's for me.
Listen, I unironically love being woke. Accessibility for impairments? Human rights? Equity? Regulations standing in the way of greed? Overrepresentation of minority demographics? Fuck yes to all of that shit. Hell's Yeah.
But the direction of these games have been poor for a lot of reasons. It doesn't feel woke, really, it feels like they want us to believe they aren't Handsome Jack's corporate studio goons like they are.
I can barely justify 50€ for a massive game like Baldur's Gate 3. I'd never pay that much for any other game that is not on this scale. But 80 bucks? The fuck are they thinking?
They don't have any dlc lined up yet so not being to sell you empty promises on top of a normal game price is really tugging at Randy's purse strings.
/s
I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.
Seriously, why do they let him talk? The man is a walking PR disaster.
Then again, we should all be asking how the hell he's not in jail for possession of child porn, so I guess this is a pretty minor thing in comparison.
Remember how Randy Pitchford funneled money that was supposed to go to Aliens: Colonial Marines into Borderlands 2 (and Duke Nukem Forever lol)
How the fuck do you leave a USB stick full of child abuse material at a fucking Medieval Times and get away with it?
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Yarrrrr
Also, let's not forget the new EULA regarding shift accountsAlso, he made his 'fans" wait while bl3 was only available on the epic store. Fuck this dude, I am done with the franchise.
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And my way is, wait a few years for the deluxe edition to come out on sale.
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