Tesla's always been more hype than actual good products
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It was EVER? 🤔
News on car sales are always presented as monthly or by quarter.
That way, everyone gets a participation trophy by breaking the records in the period that they actually deliver a new model to the tarmac.
I don't blame the news outlets. Reporting on record car sales is kind of boring when the 1966 Toyota Corolla is still the most sold car.
I have no doubt that Tesla actually managed to peak for a while in the category "American sales of electric pick-ups trucks".
It wasn't then, sure. But it also isn't now.
Didn't realize the Cybertruck was selling at all. In the last three years since it went on sale, I can count on one hand the amount of Cybertrucks I've seen in person.
I live near Sacramento and I see multiple of these shit piles daily. Never fails to make me laugh either. Can't get over just how fucking dumb they look. The trucks look stupid too.
Shout out, Elk Grove resident here!
Auburn here but work in sac mostly
They were all over Southern California as well last time I was there.
Yeah there's no lack of idiots with more money than sense here.
Come here to Texas. They are fucking everywhere.
Or Arizona
They're riding high off the early adopter sales spike, and now it's dropping fast.
I see them annoyingly frequently in my part of Texas, although I guess my experience is skewed, because I live near their factory in Austin and I also travel for work.
The number of cars they've left rotting in the factory's back yard grows day by day, though. Which warms my heart.
I see at least 3 or 4 a day in Modesto. Seems everyone who bought them is in California. Specifically the central valley.
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I feel like the F-150 Lightning not beating the wankpanzer out of the gate has more to do with ford production bottlenecks more than actual popularity.
I didn't even know the Lighting existed until I read an article about how someone used one to power their home during a power outage.
I make an attempt not to subject myself to marketing, but it seems like marketing for that thing was straight nonexistent for a long time.
And yet ford is still garbage.
Ford's right shit but even the least reparable, shittiest built, oversized Ford is better than anything Tesla has built. Ford is a car company meanwhile Tesla is a stock manipulation scheme with a tech company paint scheme pretending to be a car company.
Also before anyone makes accusations I prefer pre-2005 Toyotas and 90s Chevy Jeeps, I fucking hate almost all modern cars.
And people who wants big truck also don't care about ev's. It doesn't even make big noise and smoke.
I want a small European style truck that's hybrid. Like give me 200 miles of electric charge, and a small generator I can use to charge up. I don't even care if I can't drive while it's using the generator for a charge, I just want the ability to charge out in the field without filling my bed up with solar panels.
Rarely do I need the full size of my 90s/2000s era truck. And it's tiny compared to modern trucks. That said, I am hauling small things that won't fit in a car or SUV nearly daily.
Most of the guys I know that drive the large trucks go on about how they NEED them for "safety" or for "when I'm hauling a bunch of stuff" while the cover on their bed hasn't been lifted off since they bought it and there isn't a single scratch on the hitch.
I get the sentiment, but the braindead coal rollers are a pretty small minority. I don't doubt there's a demand for ev trucks, in fact the increased torque is pretty appealing, but one of the common concerns I've read is how towing anything substantial kills their range. This evaluation showed all trucks tested attaining less than half their non-towing range. Probably still enough for folks towing to the next town over and back, but it'd give me pause if I was hauling equipment to a worksite an hour or so away.
for me, I wish there were a reasonable sized, 2 door EV pickup with an 8' bed. I don't want an SUV with a tiny bed but it seems that even in ICE vehicles, they only want to make gigantic 4 doors with small beds. You can find actual pickups but they're kind of rare.
Yeah, I'm with you. I tend to agree with the idea that fuel economy and emissions regulations incentivize auto makers to manufacture the ridiculously huge trucks we have today. I'm super curious to see if smaller body styles become a thing again once this incentive starts to evaporate.
I had a Lightning. Loved the electric part. Hated the software. The Sync 4 system is crap. Constantly locking up or not connecting. The intellisense cruise sucked. It constantly misread signs. Bluecruise worked when it wanted. The instument cluster went blank for a while. These are all known and documented. They sync issue is not isolated to the lightning. My dad’s 2021 f150 has the same system with the same problems. Ford has said “a fix is expected next quarter” for years now. Not that i will ever own a tesla anything.
I have such high hopes for the Slate.
I don’t want any fucking software. At all. I just want a regular-sized electric truck.
That’s going to be the question: is it regular size or tiny? As a larger guy not interested in a truck, this is a great idea and I was tempted to put down a deposit. However there are vehicles I can’t comfortably use and this could be one of them. Also, I like the customization bits but those didn’t have pricing so could make the vehicle much more expensive
Todays regular or 1980's regular size?
Chevy Luv sized from the looks of the pictures.
Have you seen pics of it? It looks about the size of an old Toyota pickup.
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Insane it's still the 2nd most sold in USA, when the Heil gestures were January 20th.
I bet many Americans don't even care about it, the failing sales are as much a result of how flawed Tesla cars are, both by design and in manufacturing.
Of course we don't have the stupid Cybertruck in Europe, but here Tesla sales are down 50% compared to last year. While USA only has managed a measly 13%!
Not many in USA are willing to do a lot to protect democracy?! 🙄
2nd most electric pickup. There's limited competition. Just based on history, the F150 Lightning isn't likely to reliquish the title now that it has it.
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77 million people voted for Trump.
I am not at all surprised people are buying cybertruck regardless of what shit Musk does.
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First, I would like a Ford F-150 Lightning. I looked at one once but there's no way I could afford it.
The other think I wanted to say is, GMC Hummer EV...? An EV Hummer? Really? Who is buying these? Someone who feels the need to take up as much space and use as many resources as possible but still wants to hang out with the cool kids who want to save the planet?
Plus, it is still a ford. Hard pass.
Hummer EV is a halo car. They're intended as "hey, look at me!" and nothing more. Its 0-60mph time is listed near an Ariel Fucking Atom. Which isn't just ridiculous on its face, but seems downright dangerous considering the weight and driver visibility of a Hummer.
Best headline I saw for it was "the EV for people who hate EVs".
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The electric Hummer is close to 100k starting price. Only people with fuck you money are going to buy it so it tracks.
Have you sat in a Lightning before? I liked a lot of aspects of it, but after sitting in one, it is HUGE. My guess is that it's at least as big or bigger than the EV Hummer. I wish they had one that was in similar size to the F150 of the nineties.
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Remember the whole off-grid and prepper movement people love EVs and have a good number of people where the environment is just not a priority.
I imagine people thinking they're gonna be the king in a mad max apocalypse are buying those
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I just want a small pickup with a 4cyl. Like a Mazda B series or VW Rabbit pickup.
I don't need to tow trains. I don't need to haul tonnage. I just want a small truck to do normal truck things that I can actually work on when it breaks.
The $20k compact EV pick up by Slate (new start up) may be of interest https://electrek.co/2025/05/12/slates-20k-electric-pickup-suv-100k-reservations/
It's no frills, there isn't even a center console to speak of
What sold me was the manual crank roll-up windows, which is a no-frills option I've wanted back in vehicles for almost two decades now.
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As much as I like my EV car, I understand why trucks are a much harder sell. It's really difficult to get an electric truck to do everything a gas truck can do, and the demographic for trucks is very different than cars.
Not sure what it's going to take to change this trend, maybe they need to stop selling "do everything" trucks and focus on work vans?
Most trucks have zero reason to be as big as they are.
Slate has been getting a shit ton of advertisements for just starting out and they seem suspect. But something that size with a hot swap battery would sell very well.
But Slate also swaps between a small "kei truck", cargo van, "SUV", and hatchback.
It's all modular kits attached to the base truck.
They don't have hot swap batteries tho.
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