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[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 21 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

nobody is going to want to create new content when they get paid nothing or almost nothing for doing so.

that's a lie

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

so basically back to internet 1.0, sounds good actually.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

Old youtube was a pretty cool place and nobody got paid

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 hours ago
[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Replace "nobody" with "nobody who contributes to society; nobody I gave a shit about in the first place" and you're on track.

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 16 points 9 hours ago

just because it's free doesn't mean it's worthless, and charging for content doesn't make it valuable

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 45 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Letting Google break the law for years with illegal anti-competitive practices is now hurting everyone else's ability to earn money.

I wonder if we have the combined will to do anything about it, or if we will wait and hope the invisible hand of the market will fix it....

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

if we will wait and hope the invisible hand of the market will fix it....

Have we lost faith in our handsome businessman? /s

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 62 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Don't take this the wrong way, but fuck your business model. The internet was supposed to be open and be ours, and you stole it for profit.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 31 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

To be honest: you can still make your own website, and in many ways big companies are actually making it easier through open-source projects and stuff like Let's Encrypt. The web industry is remarkably open compared to what big companies do in other industries. A lot of the standards meetings and stuff you can just go to and give your opinion. Or ignore the standards and fork it yourself. This alarmism I fear will make people not take the actually alarming things like encryption bans or ID requirements seriously.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Only for some things, though. If you host your own e-mail these days, chances are, you're going to have a very difficult time sending them anywhere without risking them being deleted, or automatically thrown into spam folders.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

True, but sadly that's because of what became a genuine user safety concern

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

also independent of that, fuck cloudflare

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 7 points 17 hours ago

Lol. Yup 100%

[–] sfled@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The first spam email was sent in 1978. It's been downhill since.

[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

maybe their business model. trust me. they'll find a way to monetize the zero click internet too. then it's back to square one

[–] e461h@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I believe this is why tech execs and investors are so hot on pushing AI into everything. They’ll control everyone’s digital experience and you can 100% count on being force fed ads and paid propaganda. Embrace, extend, extinguish

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Yep. They have direct control over the flow of information.

Honestly, Metal Gear Solid 2 was on fucking point.

And so was 4.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

i like to publish content so that bots can scrape it and serve it to people without attribution i think it's good i think ill publish some more interesting stuff right away

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Can someone check in with the inventor of the web and ask him what the web's business model is?

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone know Al Gore's email?

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

I didn’t come here for heartwarming stories; yet here I am.

[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 12 points 20 hours ago

Everyone is too busy doomscrolling TikTok to notice.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This is all extrapolated from google's self published survey of how their users interact with their search results. Approximately 60% of users don't click anything after a search. Personally I think that is because users have found their results to be seo garbage and not worth clicking on... but that's just my opinion.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Of course they don't click anything. Google search has just become a front-end for Gemini, the answer is "served" up right at the top and most people will just take that for Gospel.

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are they still defending the fact they host Stormfront?

[–] loweffortname@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 19 hours ago

Host_ed_, right? They did drop them at some point, I thought.

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Good. Maybe we can go back to paying for our services instead of getting tracked everywhere we go.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Err... you think you're not being tracked when you spend money?

Wow.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

When Orwell predicted universal surveillance he never anticipated that the people themselves would install the cameras, let alone pay a subscription.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 52 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That’s not what will happen. We will have to pay AND be tracked. They are not going to give anything up.

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[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 108 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Yeah well maybe the web shouldn't be a business

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