The ideal life is dying when you're only 54? That's pretty bleak!
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But probably true!
being prime military age for the vietnam war? no, please got no
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with being born after the draft became less used and I'm now old enough to not qualify for the draft anymore. Life is pretty good.
As long as you're white
And a man.
And lived in US
And cishet
When you are white the sky is the limit. When you are not the limits the sky. -Chris Rock
For some my uncle and my dad did these things but also died prematurely from health complications related to Vietnam
My dad bought about a third of an acre of waterfront property in the 80s with a small cottage on it that we added to. He paid something like $50,000. Guess what a small waterfront property is worth now?
No one gonna bite? Ok, I'll go first... One million dollars!
Didn't work for me... in my 1972 bank job interview I was told, "I'd hire you if you were a man, but you're not. If I hired you, you'd just get pregnant and leave." It wasn't against the law for him to say all that.
And for what it's worth I didn't buy a home - a small one-bed flat - until I was in my 40s. Cost me so much I couldn't afford proper furniture. Yes, my current house is worth a lot more than what I paid for it (mainly because I bought a wreck), but so is any other house I could afford if I sold it.
This is great, as reply and shitty, as content. made my day and ruined my evening.
I'm sorry! Truly.
So you wouldn't even live to be 60?
The bio of old television personalities is always that they took a wrong turn into the BBC reception and got hired on the spot.
That's... Dying at 54 years of age?
Dying at 54 means you can also live in the bliss of eating red meat, drinking, and ripping cigarettes every day after your 20s.
Did he fucking stutter
Yes please
and the problem is where? I'm here for a good time not a long time
You can still be happy in your 50s and beyond.
At least until 72 or so. After that it's iffy.
Eh, my parents are pretty happy in their 70s. They still go skiing, travel a ton, etc. Stay active and your 70s can be quite pleasant.
Made me think of this Irish toast:
"Here's to a long life, and a merry one
A quick death, and an easy one
A pretty girl, and an honest one
A cold beer - and another one"
This.
You can push it back to 1944 if you're in the US, the war wouldn't have impacted you much. You could even push it back to 1940, but there may be some depression era nutrition issues.
That bumps 2001 up to 57. Honestly go for a few more years and retire before '08 and die in 2019 before covid at age 75
Why die before COVID? COVID was honestly kinda okay, if you're a home body type. I played so many video games, it was glorious.
Being 75 puts you in the choking to death from covid range, no fun.
Not specific enough. Going by typical evil genie rules you'd be born in 47', but be a poc in like Alabama or Oklahoma. Just in time to get drafted to fight in Vietnam and then have to fight for civil rights at home.
Have your house torn down for a highway two years after buying it maybe?
My dad was born in 1947. He died a year ago. Lived in my basement for 3 years toward the end, we converted it to a "in-law" suite. Probably spent most of his money on medical bills though because he had an accident that paralyzed half his body.
Anyhow he worked the same job his entire life only worked his way up to middle management at a factory. Prided himself in slacking off his entire career and still did better than I do now and I have to work much harder and have my spouse be employed to pull in what he did alone half-assing it.
So it was different for sure, middle-class was easily achieved if you were a white male. I'd almost say if you were poor you just got very unlucky, were a single mom, or a minority. If you were a white male, you'd really have to be dealt a bad hand in life to not be middle-class.
My dad bought his house for $650 in 1976, had it moved from the mill village where it was for $2000 and has lived in it on land he was given for 50 years. Its current value is over $225k.
He offered to sell me a quarter acre for $50k.
Fyi $650 in 1976 is about $3600-3700 adjusted for inflation.
Life for seniors is ok. About to get a tax break on SS benefits. Would be 78 this year. Possible to get another 12 years of senior benefits. Trump was born that year, so things can work out past 2001.
Change the last bit to
Retire in 2001 with a inflation linked final salary pension scheme.
Yeah, you'll still have a good 20 years to enjoy retirement with your portfolio, then peace out before the pandemic.
Or you could’ve been sent to Vietnam…
My grandfather picked tomatoes to eventually buy his house in cash.
He was a hard worker, but damn, imagine buying a house in cash.
Dude went on to have like 10 kids and a good standard of living.
You have to be at least middle class and "white"/seen as the dominant demographic for this to work out. Just like every other place and time period.
middle class constraint can be relaxed for hunter-gatherer societies.
Could one feasibly claim that the less hunter-gatherer we are, the less egalitarian we are, societally?