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[–] gradual@lemmings.world -3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

A new law could soon allow AI companies to use copyrighted material without permission.

Good. Copyright and patent laws need to die.

All the money wasted enforcing them and taken from customers could be better spent on other things.

Creators will still create, as they always have. We just won't have millionaire scumbags such as 'paul mccartney' living like kings while children starve.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is a terrible take. Sure. There are issues with the system, but these laws protect smaller musicians and inventors from having their ideas stolen and profited upon by larger players.

Without patent laws, there's no reason to ever "buyout" a design from an inventor, or for smaller songwriters to ever get paid again. A large company or musician could essentially steal your work and make money off of it, and you would get nothing for all of the time and effort that you put into it.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Most musicians and inventors never make any significant amounts money off of their music or inventions.

There is an extremely small pool of creators who make an egregious amount of money off of their creations.

A large company or musician could essentially steal your work and make money off of it

They would make less money overall if they did not have copyright and patent laws to help them. It's sad watching you people go to bat for laws that exist solely to make rich people richer, but it's why you're average.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that most creators don't become wealthy, and yes, there's plenty of abuse and inequality in how IP laws are applied. But removing those laws wouldn't solve that - it would just give even more power to the entities with the most money, reach, and legal muscle.

Without IP protections, smaller inventors and musicians wouldn't even have the option to negotiate or earn anything off their work. A major label or corporation could just take it, polish it, and release it as their own without any consequences.

So while the system isn't perfect, saying it "only exists to make the rich richer" misses the point. The alternative isn't more equity, it's no recourse at all for the little guy.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 1 points 6 hours ago

A major label or corporation could just take it, polish it, and release it as their own without any consequences.

How would that corporation make money off of it without copyright and patent laws?

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Lol says the guy that's probably going to pirate GTA 6.

And how do you propose people you claim will continue to create be compensated for their work when one of those much bigger corporations you seem to hate simply steal their work and profit off of it?

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Things like rent won't be so expensive because landlords will have less of an excuse to charge customers more money. So, in essence you're not even arguing for compensating creators for their work; you're arguing for compensating their feudal lords.

when one of those much bigger corporations you seem to hate simply steal their work and profit off of it?

Corporations will also make less money because there are no copyright and patent laws. Your cognitive dissonance is on full display here.

This is how we put more money in the hands of the working class. It''s sad watching you fight tooth and nail against it just as you've been conditioned to do.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You're moving the goal posts and making assumptions.

Please address my question how do you propose any intellectual entity be compensated to their creator without any kind of theft protection?

Also leave you naive childish and idiotic anti-whatever proselytizing for you racist uncle over thanksgiving dinner.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I'm not moving any goalposts nor am I making any assumptions. You are upset because rather than learn from your cognitive dissonance, you attack the person who calls it out.

Also leave you naive childish and idiotic anti-whatever proselytizing for you racist uncle over thanksgiving dinner.

Hey, you're the one who's arguing to exacerbate the disparity in wealth. Not me.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Lol everything you create will now be stolen by Disney who will own the only organizations that can reach an audience.

Thanks for giving them free money forever just so you can spite people with actual talent.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

How is disney going to make its money without copyright and patent laws?

How will their movies sell if it's legal for anyone to copy and redistribute them?

How will they make as much money off of merchandise if they have to legally compete with people who don't hold copyrights to their IP?

The only "Lol" here is how proud you people are for being useful idiots. This is why things are the way they are.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 25 points 22 hours ago (23 children)

What is the actual justification for this? Everyone has to pay for this except for AI companies, so AI can continue to develop into a universally regarded negative?

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean honestly this AI era is the time for these absurd anti-piracy penalties to be enforced. Meta downloads libgen? $250,000 per book plus jail time to the person who's responsible.

Oh but laws aren't for the rich and powerful you see!

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 42 points 1 day ago

Normal people pirate: one hundred bazillion dollars fine for download The Hangover.

One hundred bazillion dollars company pirate: special law to say it okay because poor company no can exist without pirate 😞

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