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[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 hour ago

I have to press "keep on printing" on my printer for months now and every print is fine. This is just disgusting.

[–] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I had to print maybe 3 times in the last 10 years and just used one of those coin operated printer things. Does anyone still print that much to justify owning a printer?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

Yes. But I use a cheap Brother laser printer.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

*Goes through and upvotes all the comments about getting a Brother laser printer*

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 18 minutes ago

If you need an ink jet, I can also recommend the Epson L3260 ink tank. You pay a bit more for the printer but the ink is fairly reasonable.

[–] aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Anyone ever tried to assemble a compute cluster from these?

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 5 hours ago

Why is it the cyan that's low in the comic? It's always fucking yellow that they scream about.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Also note that printers come with a smaller cartridge. Buying another printer isn't cheaper, even if it costs less.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

This is true, and yet somehow when I buy the "XL" sized cartridges they don't feel like they lasted much longer than the "S" size that came with it.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

it is if you only print rarely

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

The key is to buy a brother laser printer

It’s black and white but most people rarely have a need for color. Meanwhile, the toner doesn’t dry out like an inkjet printer will

You buy that one $150 inkjet printer and you’re set.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

I bought a secondhand Brother printer from ~20 years ago for $20, with toner and drum all set, and it works flawlessly on modern systems. They even still keep the official page with the drivers and the stock of replacement parts is readily available should I ever need them.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

Swear to god old inkjet printer don't let the ink dry out. My old HP printer works fine with refills and I print like 3-4 times each year. Never had any ink dry out. I'm convinced they purposefully made later printers dry it out on purpose. Problem is that "later" was like 15 years ago or smth.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

My only regret about buying a brother laser printer is that I didn't get one much sooner. I love it!

[–] whirlpoolbrewer@lemm.ee 29 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

I will throw this idea into the ether and hope someone with more time, knowledge, and talent than me builds on it: swap the brains of an HP Printer with a raspberry pi. All the motors and wiring are in place, and HP sells the printer for cheap to screw you on ink and software. You'd probably want a new source of ink and a way to refill the cartridges to fully cut out HP. I feel like this would get you pretty close at an affordable price.

The whole world wants the Linux version of a printer, we just need a couple people to get together and figure this out.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 hours ago

Ohh God ... That's a very, very tall order.

You wouldn't think that it's that complicated. I worked in a print-on-demand house for about 5 years, The amount of black magic fuckery that goes on between streaming data into that driver and getting stuff on the page is absolutely insane.

You're standing on the backs of like 40 years of trade secrets and poorly implemented protocols at half-assed feature sets.

And then the worst part is, HP is spent the last 20 years making the printer cheaper. Most of the inkjets don't even have steppers anymore, just DC motors and a resistive feedback ribbon.

Developing a multi-platform certified signed driver would be a pretty decent hurdle as well.

Can't we just stop printing? Change things over to black and white thermal when we really need something that's pretty easy to do.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

I would love to make a living lobotomizing smart devices.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 27 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The Linux version of a printer is just buy a brother color laser (or non color). I bought one for 85 bucks like 15 years ago and it still chugging along

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Please tell me more about this brother laser thingy and why it is a good alternative

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago

Brother is probably the least offensive brand. Laser uses toner instead of ink. So no more of this not printing anything for 6 months and it no longer works crap. Toner lasts basically forever. I’ve replaced my toner cartridge exactly once in like 15 years. The starter cartridge lasted something like 5700 pages of text. The non-starter cartridge should last longer.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 9 points 13 hours ago

I work in IT. Our clients are small offices with existing equipment. So I see a wide variety of machines in different environments.

I would only buy a Brother printer. No question.

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[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 6 points 13 hours ago

Someone could probably do this. But it would just be a fun project, not replicable.

You'd need to write your own printer driver. There are probably some open source libraries out there to do most of the heavy lifting, but it's still a project.

The big issue is going to be the interface between the pi and the printer's "motors and wiring". Doable, but too finicky to publish a "kit" or something for someone else to replicate. It could be worth the work if it would help other people, but I don't think that's on the table.

Honestly, I think anyone with the ability to do that would probably find it easier to just build their own printer.

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[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 116 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

Love my Brother black and white laser printer.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 50 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (10 children)

It is important to point out that it isn't the brand that makes it good, it is the fact that it is laser.

I used to have a Brother "multi function center" printer/scanner/photocopier/fax that used inkjet and it was pure asshole design. Wasting expensive ink just by remaining plugged in and refusing to do anything if one cartridge was low on ink (but was actually still half full)

But if I had to single out a brand that should absolutely be avoided for printers it is HP. They do asshole DRM to a whole new level. They bricked a brand new ink cartridge because I didn't put it in properly at first.

Now I have a laser printer and the nightmare is finally over.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CompN12@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago

It doesn't surprise me, I feel like I'm navigating a labarynth trying to reset the drum/toner count on my brother printer. It feels like they have the framework in place to make laser just as bad as inkjet brands.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

With my old brother inkjet, it would say it was out of ink in like 2 weeks because it used an optical sensor on the printer looking through a window on the ink cartridge at aimed at a floating piece of black plastic in the tank that would drop when the ink level went down.

The thing is, the sponge in the cartridge would soak up the ink and cause the floater to drop when there was still like 90% of the ink left.

So the key was to just put some black electrical tape over the window on the cartridge and keep using it until it actually stopped printing that color.

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

All inkjet printers have to waste ink when they are not in use. Otherwise the ink in the print head dries out and clogs it up. Inkjet printers are the worst possible choice for infrequent use.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They're also a bad choice if you're a frequent user because the cost per page is higher than laser. The only upside is the lower upfront cost but you quickly lose that difference in running costs.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 12 hours ago

The ink tank printers are pretty cheap to run if they work with generic ink. They are a decent option if you need to print a lot of graphics. A laser printer will always produce higher quality text though.

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[–] urquell@lemm.ee 21 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Mate, they sold you a printer that prints white?

[–] Hellstormy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago

Well, if it would only print black, you could not see the text!

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

Had to pay twice as much for two colors but it was worth it!

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 7 points 14 hours ago

I’m convinced this is the only good printer in existence. They are an absolute workhorse.

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[–] urquell@lemm.ee 31 points 16 hours ago

Fuck you, HP

[–] superduperpirate@lemmy.world 53 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Disregard inkjet printers

Acquire laser printer

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Yup

I think the most under appreciated aspect is that ink can dry out just from sitting around. A lot of the time and “empty” ink cartridge just evaporated off its solvents

Toner lasts forever. Perfect for occasional use

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah I've been using an HP laser for a decade, get knockoff ink from some random website that probably steals my info, but whatever, who isn't stealing my info these days, it's got almost zero value at this point. Only issues are when it's just needs to be restarted to work sometimes and I have to walk down to the basement to do it. Need to put it on a smart plug so I can just do it from my phone. Then I need a trained monkey to bring me my prints.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago

Brother used to be the go-to but there was a post a week or so ago showing how they are starting to hold laser toner hostage.

I replaced my HP inkjet with a Brother laser a little over a year ago and seems to be going okay. Though I'm hesitant to let it update firmware.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Governments need to sue more companies for the environmental and resource damage they do with irresponsible business models like this. Get that money Mr. Government. It's laying on the floor for you to pick up.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Another way they get you: the ink cartridges that come with new printers are often only half full.

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