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[–] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 61 points 2 days ago (12 children)

A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly "race to sleep" in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it'll consume overall

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Especially as the phone gets older and apps get more complex.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap. It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit. For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb...

The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.

Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.

Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g

[–] degen@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just say you've never cracked a screen, everyone and their brother will be wet

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I would be too. You know they’re repairable right?

[–] degen@midwest.social 1 points 36 minutes ago

I did assume a thing or two I guess lol. I got a refurb when it was cheaper than a fix. Wonder if that counts as a "new" phone... Theseus would probably like to have a word.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] degen@midwest.social 1 points 20 minutes ago

I should watch Archer again

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Genshin Impact does make my phone toasty.

[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are real video games for phones now, and I'm pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.

It's definitely powerful enough but I'm slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn't work in chrome or Google photos)

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it's probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don't really care about the curved screen.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (8 children)

If anything, it makes me wonder why we don't have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren't phones or pseudocomputers and don't cost a bomb.

Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Something that can play PS2/GameCube games effortlessly

Maybe even a bit of PS3!

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago

https://www.goretroid.com/products/retroid-pocket-4-handheld

Can play gamecube/wii games and most ps2. Ps3 you're gonna have problems with even with a steamdeck sometimes.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Because we already have phones.

The solution is to release games for phones that require a controller, but most companies aren't willing to be the first ones to do it.

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[–] 7arakun@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yeah, I'm taking a look at the RP5 it looks quite good. I wish its GameCube Performance was better but this might be the one for me :D

If it can also play Steam games/x86 games, that would also be cracked

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[–] aegis_sum@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I know but I don't want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 6 points 2 days ago

Why do people spend that much money?!

Conditioning. They have more money so they spend it proportionally.

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[–] kadup@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Around the same as the Steam Deck when portable, but with access to significantly better upscaling.

Such a shame FSR looks so terrible, the Steam Deck would otherwise hold up much better against it.

I'm still not going to buy one and only use my Deck though.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So there really is no excuse for the new Pokemon games to look so terrible.

[–] bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There never was a good excuse other than greed and the fact that everyone keeps blindly throwing their money at them anyway.

[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a !pokemon@lemm.ee fan I didn't buy for these reasons but that doesn't stop hordes of parents or certain fans from buying anyways. If they're happy, I guess… meanwhile I'll be fine as long as they don't go after ROM hacks.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

Rom hacks can be so good, but why can't we move past hm's??

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

From what I've heard a lot of the same og programmers and animators from the game boy days are still in charge of making the games and they don't want a large team. They also don't want to have to work really hard or learn new skills, so basically all the work falls to inexperienced people being led by people with incredibly dated skills. Nintendo still rakes in tons of money so they don't see the need to interject.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Still the best engineered bang for your Buck/power draw card ever created in my eyes. Power draw of a lightbulb and I put it side by side with my freinds Xbox one at release and beat its performance.

I wish companies stayed on that track.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I wish companies stayed on that track.

Welcome to a world of 1000W PSUs :(

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

1000W does sound big enough for a 5090, but what about the other computer components?

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Yup, that's what I'm using in my NAS for basic transcoding. Works great!

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People who buy a Switch 2 are not the same people who care about this stuff.

[–] Donut@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The majority perhaps, but there's still folks who are interested in the tech side of things.

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I love how my boy 750ti is in there. My first real gpu and my favorite because it was a time when NVIDIA was showing interest in getting the most bang out of lower power draw. That went out the window

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Obligatory fuck Nintendo, and shame anyone buying their stuff anymore.

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