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I have a degree, and was a lecturer. Assuming I didn't want to be a public figure who might get found out in the future, or I didn't need a specific education for obvious professions - medicine/engineering or whatever, I would just lie and say I had a degree. Here in the UK no one checks. I only need to learn prompt engineering anyway. What's the point? I don't think it is worth the lesser UK cost is it?

i can this for essay writing, prior to AI people would use prompts and templates of the same exact subject and work from there. and we hear the ODD situation where someone hired another person to do all the writing for them all the way to grad school( this is just as bad as chatgpt) you will get caught in grad school or during your job interview.

might be different for specific questions in stem where the answer is more abstract,

God this is so depressing. Remember when people were actually INTERESTED in things and learned because they were curious and stimulated. Fuck all of these little corporate know nothings and their cheat-machine. If I were teaching these classes, I'd be standing these kids up in front of the class and asking them probing questions about the essay topics they wrote about and grading them purely on demonstrated knowledge.

How long before Respondus introduces an education equivalent of BattlEye or other kernel-level anticheats as a result of stuff like this?

And I don't mean the Lockdown browser, I mean something beyond that, so as to block local AI Implementations in addition to web-based ones.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's still plenty of fields that are more hands-on and either really hard or impossible to AI-cheat your way through. For example, if you're going for carpentry at the local vo-tech, good luck AI-cheating your way through that when that's a very hands-on subject by its nature.

When I look at the quality of prominent Americans who went to ivy league schools, I don't think cheating your way through college will make much difference.

Pete hegseth graduated from princeton without the use of AI and he is one dumb fucking cunt, for example

Higher education needs to move with the times. Just like the old reason of “you won’t always have a calculator with you” for not allowing a calculator in an exam is outdated, writing essays and reports as assessment is outdated.

The entire system should be built around preparing people for the real world, giving them the knowledge and the skillset to succeed in their chosen field. Determining this by how many formulas, definitions, rules etc they can remember in a test environment does not do that. Asking them to write an essay or a report in their own time doesn’t do that, nor does saying they can’t use all the tools available to do so.

It’s almost as if college isn’t about bettering yourself but paying a racket so you can check off a mandatory box on your resume for the pleasure of your corporate liege-lords…

Papers are being disrupted. Exams will become more relevant. Can't use AI with only a pencil and paper

I feel like one of the more important things to take away from this is the wildly different degrees to which various students use ai. Yes, 90% may use it, but there is a huge difference between "check following paper for grammar errors: ..." and "write me a paper on the ethics of generative AI," though an argument could be made that both are cheating. But there are things like "explain Taylor series to me in an intuitive way." Like someone else here pointed out, a 1-2 minute conversation would be a very easy way for professors to find people who cheated. There seems to be a more common view (I see it a LOT on Lemmy) that all AI is completely evil and anything with a neural network is made by Satan. Nuance exists.

While other new students fretted over the university’s rigorous core curriculum, described by the school as “intellectually expansive” and “personally transformative,” Lee used AI to breeze through with minimal effort.

Lee goes on to claim everyone cheats. (He's also that AI Amazon Leetcode interview person.)

Lee said he doesn’t know a single student at the school who isn’t using AI to cheat.

Well duh, what other kind of people would he know.

Cheating themselves out of education.

College courses have long been structured to incentivize rote memorization and regurgitation over actual critical thinking and understanding. When i was in college the "honors" students literally had filling cabinets with a decade of old tests for every class in their dormatory. I'll admit llms have probably made it even worse, but the slide of colleges into worthless degree mills has been inexorably progressing for like 40 years at this point.

Computer science is going to be q commodity job. Prediction of three tiers:

• Tier 1: No education requirement. I write code and build things. Large percentage of developers.
• Tier 3: Science based, high education working on algorithms, physics, and other elements requiring an understanding of matters in deeper education
• Tier 2: Right in between 1 and 3, may require formal education, but definitely experience. Will understand applications of high science, and can both program well and manage teams. Will replace current nontechnical middle management, because who needs that when the market is flooded

We've been headed this way for years, AI is just speeding it up.

make education stupider and less important, put AI assistants in front of everyone, automate as much as possible, and allow the proletariat class to enjoy decreasing levels of control over society