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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

I take it someone has already pointed out that excluded was the word wanted?

[–] tetranomos@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

my favorite pornotrope is how people still swear by the belief that apple computers suffer no "malware", because why are androids apparently so promiscuous like any black person wants to spoof torvalds' github username

do androids sleep with promiscuous scapegoats?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago

academic discussion about sexuality with no context

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 23 points 4 hours ago

Run a second correlation on the incomes of these families and the tech literacy of their children and see what you find. I have a hypothesis.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (5 children)

The thing with Macs is you don't have to spend 80% of your time troubleshooting them. I love my Mac and OS X. I boot it up, log in, and don't have to think about it. The UI is very intuitive and easy to use as well.

[–] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 minute ago

Listen I love the battery life on my m1 but it's the first mac I've owned and "intuitive" is not the description I'd use for the ui. Is terminal and homebrew familiar sure, and for most things it does work. But then there are the real oddities in the ui. Like why does finder not show me my full file system by default? Why do I drag and drop when installing a new app, thats fucking stupid. Why are files in folders just placed where ever with no order? There should be a grid pattern that works by default so it doesn't become so disorganized. Why does clicking into folders just add a divider in finder instead of actually opening the folder so that after a couple nested folders you can barely make out file names. If you have lived with that madness for all your life maybe it's "intuitive" because you have gotten used to it but linux and windows are just miles ahead in ui intuitiveness when it comes to basic functionality like this.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

I don't have to troubleshoot my kid's Speak and Spell either.

[–] TommySalami@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Every year I believe this more and more. I've always been lumped in with the tech crowd by anyone not tech-savvy, but in reality all my knowledge is from personal troubleshooting and very limited (I'm think of trying Linux and gonna be like a whole ass event for me). I used to think that was dumb, but then I started working with more Gen Z...

They have zero idea how to troubleshoot anything. If the computer doesn't do what they expect, it's a full stop for some of them. I have "solved" so many it problems by replugging a cable or just knowing the settings option exists. These aren't stupid kids either, their in a tough industry and very capable otherwise. I think my generation was right place, right time to learn this stuff organically because shit just never worked quite right -- apple was largely the outlier back then.

Them's fightin' words 'round these parts, buster.

(... i agree)

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

I have an external Samsung SSD that my mac mini just refuses to keep indexed.

The solution to this is when I log in every day I have to go into the Mac system settings and tell finder to ignore my external drive, close system setting, then reopen systen setting and tell finder to no longer ignore the external drive. This is the only way to get it to reindex everything.

I need to do this everytime the mac mini wakes from sleep.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Should've written "Mac PCs" just to mess with people.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 2 points 10 minutes ago

When Apple moved to Intel CPU’s there was the creation of the Hackintosh. Which was running apple’s OS on any PC hardware you had around that happened to be compatible. If you thought finding Linux compatible hardware was rough…that was worse.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago

I'm curious what her hypothesis is, I don't think there is a correlation at all personally, seen a ton of people who know nothing about their computers regardless of Mac/Windows as their primary os.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I grew up on Mac and only switched to Windows when I was 30. lol

I still wonder what Linux is like… It’s probably cool.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

Well, the time to find out is now :)

[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh shit, same here! Were you surprised to learn how much basic stuff you didn't know?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

To be honest, not really. But I guess I got acclimated to Windows through the computers at my schools, so maybe that’s why.

I will admit, the environment feels more ‘open’ even if utilizing that openness is convoluted or requires more technical skills.

I think the main draw for me was the hardware and the ability to ‘easily’ replace it. Can’t do that on an iMac lol

[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

True, haha. Yeah I thought I was pretty computer savvy, then I got my first Windows machine a couple years ago, and boy was I wrong!

I still use a mac for work, but now I get frustrated with all the loopholes that comes with.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

If you've had to mess around with EMM386 and HIMEM settings to play Wing Commander 2, you win.

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Autoexec.bat's and boot disks for everything ftw.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Does messing around to play Red Alert at 640 x 480 (instead of the default 320 x 240) qualify? I emphasize that I modded the thing to have ICBM carrying submarines for more realism, and played global thermonuclear war with my university course mate over an RS-232 cable. :P

(We could not afford Ethernet, or maybe couldn't understand it, since it was such a new thing. I recall seeing shiny Ethernet cards from 3COM with some envy.)

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My first experience with Linux was at 10 years old or so. I had a netbook that I'd installed Ubuntu on.

Flash forward nearly 14 years and I use Arch as pretty much a daily driver these days.

[–] kaidenshi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I feel old. Linux didn't exist when I was 10 years old, Linus was still in high school at that point. My home computer was a TRS-80 CoCo 2.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

TRS!

Yeah, I'm only turning 24 this October, so that's much before my time. I've always found something charming about machines from that era. My grandfather has an Amiga 500 that he got back in the day that still works. Sometimes him and I play around on it just for fun.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

I just want to point out that I was somewhat tech literate in the 2000s. and The Mac OS still scared me.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 hours ago

Omg, this is the best early-morning laugh that I've had in a long time. Mac-nerd, here. From childhood. Also a Linux nerd for servers. This is so great that I immediately sent it to friends in tech. I'm still laughing like a nut.

[–] adm@lemm.ee 15 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I learned because I was torrenting and broke the family windows computer. It was either fix it or get grounded.

[–] termaxima@programming.dev 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Is the hypothesis that Windows being constantly broken forces you to learn how to fix it ? Because that’s kinda what happened to me 😆

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Same. Got tricked into deleting System32 at age...7 maybe? Started learning a lot from that point on.

[–] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I switched to Linux after my experience with Windows Millennium Edition. Many people have since referred to me as some sort of programming genius and hacker.....I don't know crap about any of that. I've simply followed instructions and referred to the help communities, whenever I've had trouble. Using the mainstream distributions (I'm guessing) has kept me from having much trouble.

I think my kids may benefit, as my wife only uses Mac, I have 2 Ubuntus and a Mint, and the kids use Chromebooks at school. We have 2 iPad and a Galaxy tab in the house. 1 kid has an Android phone and the other an iPhone. My wife and I both have flagship Android phones.

Sometimes it's fun to watch them debate over which systems they prefer, depending on the school projects they work on.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Mixed messages here: "I’ve simply followed instructions and referred to the help communities, whenever I’ve had trouble." Fellow human, those are the actions of a programming genius and hacker. The bar is remarkably low. A lot of people can't even read what it says on the screen.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Peoples' definition on programming is unclear.

I watched two people argue if Dennis Ritchie or Mark Zuckerberg is better at programming in comments on a youtube video about C.

And they are relatively tech-savy if they watch those videos.

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