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Albertans as a whole are very patriotic Canadians in general. This is all a Marlaina temper tantrum to distract from her many scandals. Even IF Alberta were to vote 100% to separate, it would require a constitutional change, which will never happen.
Also Alberta’s doesn’t have a leg to stand on in terms of being in any way culturally different from the rest of Canada.
Fuck Danielle Smith and her gaggle of Maple Magas. Just move to Texas already to help build Trumps wall ya traitorous Losers.
I'll even help pay for their airfare!
We all already are!
That's irrelevant.
The intent is to trigger a provincial referendum, and hope for something stupid like Brexit to happen. If they get anything close to 50%, then Trump will pull a Crimea and invade to LiBeRaTe the poor oPprEsSeD minority.
I guarantee she's already discussed a plan with Trump about these scenarios. She's a Maga hat traitor.
If someone can get evidence for this, it should arguably be grounds for treason.
Albertans will be surprised to learn just how little land they can take with them.
Give the unmarked American owned media organizations with major Republican connections time to soft sell Albertans.
It only takes months to soft-pivot literally everything.
One theory is Trudeau put in a clearly unpopular capital gains tax policy and blew past the budget to have Freeland blame him was all preordained in order to elect Carney as the savior, who is a climate change advocate who will appear progressive enough to push a pipeline through Quebec using this constitutional crisis. In order to lower reliance on Russian energy globally, since we cant get a pipeline for LNG overseas exports any other way, given how provincial powers work in Canada.
The last 15 years Alberta contributed 240b to Ottawa while Quebec received 327b, if Alberta leaves as a tariff wipes out Quebecs industries its obviously leaves them with no choice. Cons obviously cant push a pipeline either, given Quebecs hatred of the Cons.
How much did Alberta get back?
How much did Quebec contribute?
That's after taking into account what they get back. That's just net gain/loss.
Where can I find these numbers? I’ve never actually seen how provinces compare and I’m curious about the rest
Right wing crap “think tank” and not a serious or credible source for anything.
Its not nonsense, Alberta gets 0$ in equalization payments most years. They also have a small population with extremely high corporate profits with high margins, so those corporations pay more taxes, regardless if it trickles down to workers or not. Also during a recession oil generally does okay, while other provinces are wiped out.
Only Alberta babies constantly whinging about equalization payments. JFC. Stop begrudging QC their social programs. If AB wants social programs (🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣) then fucking pay for them with your oil billions. Stop deluding yourselves that you pay for another provinces programs. Am in Ontario, never ONCE does it cross our minds that our equalization payments go to New Brunswick or PEI or some shit. Only Alberta are douchebags this way.
The Alberta babies are the one who are changing their referendum laws, I'm unsure what point you think you're making, is it just an attempt at an ad hominem?
So? AB could vote 100% to leave and it will never happen. Honestly though, fucking leave. AB would be tiny seeing as AB can’t take with them what’s not theirs. Unceded Indigenous land and Indigenous land covered by treaties. Marlaina’s doing a nice job of distracting you from her huge 180k carpet cleaning bill.
The theory is they're drumming up a crisis in order to get Quebec to agree to pipelines. Its not about actually separating.
Fixing that fork in the road created with 1961 National Oil Policy, that then brought up huge amounts of pain in the 70s and 80s, which basically flipped the table leading to nationalization attempts and the inevitable failure of the national energy policy.
That’s not ABs job. its Mark Carney’s job to convince Quebec.
This is not entirely unlikely. And I would not prima facie be against this approach.
Except for the fact that the common people don't get nuance like this, and it just makes the division infinitely worse. The rest of Canada is going to consider Alberta to be traitors, and the part of Alberta that are traitors are going to get fired up with false hope, further stoking their hatred when they are inevitably let down.
Maybe this is the only way to get east west pipelines. Maybe there are pieces in place behind the scenes. Unfortunately I think it's unlikely to be this sophisticated, because Smith doesn't come across to me as a sophisticated thinker. I'm inclined to think the simpler explanation is that Smith is self serving and we really have rural Albertans who have grown up knowing nothing but hatred for eastern liberals, and they've been sold a bill of goods that they don't question and wouldn't understand if they did.
Alberta has no alternatives to export so loses a lot by shipping to the US. Alberta has a huge amount to gain by having alternative shipping routes. I think they'd be happy with things and the media would change their opinion pretty quickly.
Alberta went for many years benefiting from equalization. Saskatchewan just recently became a 'have' province after spending decades as a have not. Yes, both provinces were sucking off Ontario's tit while they were scratching dirt trying to feed themselves, and there were no complaints then...but now, conveniently when oil oligarchs started deciding the politics of those two provinces, now they become ungrateful assholes who want to keep all their money and not help anyone else. Fuck you, I got mine. A tale as old as time.
We need to nationalize oil and gas and start a proper sovereign wealth fund. Get the private money (especially US) out of there. As soon as we do that I bet all this division would fizzle out.
Why nationalize only oil, why not manufacturing, mining, lumber, hydro, etc..?
Yes, to all strategic resources - hydro, oil water, telecom, probably even critical minerals.
What do you believe this article is concluding? Do you think it's a completely objective and fair assessment of the topic?
Its concluding that if Alberta leaves Quebec will be screwed, so its in Quebecs interest to allow a pipeline to prevent secession. The tariffs on manufacturing emboldens this with an even larger crisis. The long term plan would be to end the reliance on Russian energy, assuming its true, but it seems to be unfolding as predicted so far which is neat.
Heres who was predicting it, starting about 28 minutes in:
A better title: Alberta on par with QC and SK in opposing separation.
As much as I would love to deride this minority on their position, I'd rather prefer we
There absolutely should be a Bloc BriCois.
sensationalism swings both ways: both right and left. 25% is a sizeable number and we kind of know the source of it: Western Alienation coupled with dysfunctional electoral system (FPP) it breeds disenfranchisement. Also to note 60% voter turnout with 52% of it going to UPC ends up being around 30%... in other words that's pretty much UCP base. And UCP is busy fostering Western Alienation because it's easier than actually try and tackle it. Persistently Insulting your opponent is not a way to maintain dialogue yet this is all UCP was doing for the last 6yrs. They ran province for 50yrs, sat on pile of cash, threw it out the window with billions mysteriously disappearing from budget and they cry a river about inequality and use Wexit as a stick hoping to scare Fed. People are pissed because province was turned into one-trick pony that is strapped to volatile oil prices and they are legit scared for their livelihood. UCP dismissed any proposals or offers to retrain existing workforce to soften the transition, instead they chose to double down on Alienation and Oil. What I'm saying is - Feds reached out with money and offers to help, UCP either neglected or outright declined to use that money, because it wrecks narrative where everything is Feds fault (if Feds are not Cons, but if they are, it's previous Fed fault). So, UCP is keeping average Albertan hostage to their "game of politics" while keeping folks enraged and sucked deep into vortex of falsehoods and very few in their electorate want to hear otherwise. Reality disconnect is too painful to admit so it's best to keep living this rage dream.
To be fair, Western provinces cannot really outbid QC+ON combo in both chambers. While Parliament represents provinces based o population, I think Senate should've been an equal representation from each province balancing out inherent inequality of Parliament... It's not unprecedented for PM to appoint "extra" senators to represent West so Carney can do that to help things along.
No shit, it's extremism and most people find that behaviour repulsive.