Thats what we are doing now. They make money trying to manipulate human interaction.
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People today have all the disadvantages of growing up rich and none of the benefits.
Yup the hype around monetisation is a scourge. It makes you me question so much of what I see, do. I hate being so suspicious. I feel like even simple life transactions are up for sale ‘see this one cleaning hack to change your life’ … idiot on a video wanders around with a duster like it’s a new invention. Even idiots filming every bite of an average sandwich. I sound old.
I've seen many youtubers my family follow start out doing a thing - gaming, celebrity gossip, cleaning tips, guitar accessories reviews, whatever - and once they get to a certain size they're in the drive thru at McDonald's filming themselves eating a meal as an entire 15 minute video and people fucking watch it.
I know. It’s like some people are scared of interacting with real humans so they watch it instead.
I feel this hard. I swing dance and my local scene sucks. There's no college club for the scene to be based around so everyone who organizes and teaches is out to make money from it. I ran my college club (which was open to community members) and I've had them ask me how to increase involvement and they really don't like it when I tell them it's far too expensive to dance around here.
I mean, make your own club. It's as simple as finding a space to do it, inviting your friends, and putting up some posters or whatever.
But finding a space could be difficult. Many people find dancing, or especially learning to dance, in public spaces like parks to be uncomfortable. So you'll need somewhere private, out of the public eye. You might be able to find space in a local school, library, community center, or church - but these places rarely seem to have a good vibe. Usually they have bad lighting, modernist architecture, lackluster sound systems (if they have any at all), and/or an odor that isn't bad so much as it is vaguely off-putting. And just generally, they aren't the sort of places where a vibrant young person wants to go to have a good time. So you probably need to find a private venue, like a bar with a spare back room. The bar might want to host you as a form of passive advertising and a way to get people in the door - but just as easily, they may want you to pay a fee for the inconvenience you cause them and for the use of their space. And fair enough - after all, they still need to make their rent.
Then, you have to actually put on the event. Picking out music, getting a good vibe going, dealing with assholes and telling them to go away, getting the word out, responding to emails, finding people to cover for you when you just can't make it this week, etc. At which point you realize that you are essentially working a part time job, so you might as well get paid.
I would point out that I mentioned I ran a club before. The venue is the issue. It's very hard to find somewhere we can use for free. I'm working on getting my garage set up to be able to host, but I don't really want to open up my house to the public and it's small anyway. I'm very aware of how to do it, it's just not practical.
Exactly. You are limiting your ability to make things happen if you insist on making it free. If you just charge a fee, you can use it to pay a venue to host you.
You're missing the whole point. Everything has to be about money
Yes, more or less everything involves money. This is like when someone says "ugh, X isn't political", and then someone else points out that no, everything is political. If you want something that can't just be picked up off the ground, then someone, somewhere is paying for it, in some way.
Exactly. And then we are back to the original issue of where the scene is already at. If you insist on charging money people have an excuse to not go. If it's free people can just come to try it out. There's a reason this problem has not been solved yet.
I mean the solution is public spaces. My city had a weekly dance in the park and yeah colleges had clubs. There should be spaces the public can sign up to use provided what they are doing is open to the general public.
As noted before, this will probably present a far larger barrier to most people than a small fee. You can already host an event like this in any given public park with no permit necessary. However, most people have a spare $5 but are highly reluctant to embarrass themselves in the town square - so charging a fee for privacy is more inclusive.
Not just an excuse, outright not being able to afford to
The only thing I know is that there's a shitload of really nice people out there, willing to help with whatever.
Maybe your perception is screwed by depression?
Depression is definitely a factor for many people. But the death of 3rd spaces is fairly well documented. The problem is that many people don't know how to make friends. Friends very rarely happen instantly, they usually are a result of repeated and consistent interactions. Adults rarely seek out situations that would give them those types of interactions outside of work and school.
I don't. I moved across the state in the 5th grade and never recovered socially. Doesn't help I had to do middle and high school in a conservative shithole and got bullied as my only social interaction
It depends a lot on accessibility.
Wait, when?
If we're talking medieval times, nope had a lord to worry about
If we're talking bronze age, nope we were working farms for a lord precursor.
If we're talking prehistory, nope the men were murdering each other and the women captured as trophies.
Try studying non-european history. Pre-historic communities in north America were generally pretty chill.
There are plenty examples of communal matriarchal preindustrial societies, enough that anthropologists suspect that was the norm for prehistory. It's the invention of property, and thus inheritance and wealth accumulation and lineage, that leads to patriarchy and domination.
Göbekli Tepe is the only one that comes to mind, and maybe Çatalhöyük.
But what worries me is the skeletal remains that we find of males at dig sites with vast amounts of damage to them, and significantly less women and girl skeletal remains. Aeons later and the heterogeneity of the Y chromosome is suspiciously low in contrast to that shown in mtDNA.
To me that suggests a lot of killing and raping.
Or that prehistoric women and girls were extraterrestrial beings who, by and large, simply teleported away and died off-world, thus not leaving remains for us to find.
Hale-Bopp is absolutely chock full of the remains of prehistoric women. It's crazy up there. Can't even play hopscotch, what with all the femurs and skulls everywhere.