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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.

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[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 105 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 30 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry, wasn't aware.

I usually post CBC, but they break metadata embedding on Lemmy.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 59 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Here friend! Some of the Non Canadian owned new outlets and the Canadian owned when reading getting your information.

[–] PsychoNaut@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Where do Globe & Mail and Toronto Star sit?

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Globe & Mail and Toronto Star are currently, Canadian owned, but can be acquired (by foreign interest).

P.s. none of the Canadian owned news outlets in the infographic can be acquired.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What makes those two different from the rest? Why can they be acquired?

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Any for-profit organization (e.g. Globe & Mail and Toronto Star) can be acquired simply by buying shares. We've seen this with the Hudson Bay, for example.

The featured media outlets in the infographic are either government owned, or non-profit. You can't acquire the government, and a non-profit structure doesn't have shareholders.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago

Makes sense, thanks!

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 16 hours ago

Owned and manipulated by our own oligarchs

[–] notsure@fedia.io 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

first past the post will kill you as easily as it killed Estats Unis

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Estats Unis

Γ‰tats-Unis, my dude.

[–] kodoku@beehaw.org 6 points 15 hours ago

i think they wrote it in catalan, not french

[–] small44@sopuli.xyz 19 points 17 hours ago

I like Singh but the results speaks for itself. There is no chance of NPD growing under him despite him doing a great job in my opinion. I am glad that he thought about people before the party and himself

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 26 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 54 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 22 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it's defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.

[–] small44@sopuli.xyz 12 points 17 hours ago

I agree generally agree with you but charisma is so subjective. A lot of people think that trump is charismatic but to me he isn't t all. Many think Carney is not charismatic but he is to me.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

Jagmeet was plenty charismatic; and earnest, too. But while I worried about his focus, really he bounced off a glass ceiling; and then found slagging an ally in campaign ads was detrimental to both. (and let's talk about how uncharacteristic THAT was)

But he presented well as someone with decent motivations, and his causes were generally on the side of regular Canadians, as you'd expect from the oranges. He had his best party and just misstepped while puppet-mastering Justin.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca -5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but he destroyed the NDP party

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] rabber@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't explain your opinion at all.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's clear he hasn't resonated with voters since the start and he kept going until the party lost party status

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok that's more like it. And I agree with you. He was a nice guy, but we needed someone more feisty, more aggressive, at the head of the NDP.

[–] cybirdman@lemmy.ca 22 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It's like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

[–] jloewen@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago

I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

rarely any actual constructive or original ideas

My mom's getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.

They need to come up with their own identity

They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.

instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

You confusing the orange with the blue?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 16 hours ago

That you think this means the NDP is not getting their message out.

[–] small44@sopuli.xyz 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I agree that bashing other parties is useless but everybody does it. For weird reason the critisism only is given to NPD.

There is no such thing as original ideas in politics. Every ideas was proposed in other elections over the world.

[–] discomatic@lemmy.ca 11 points 15 hours ago

I loved him, but he tossed Jessica Wetz under the bus and the next day, he was posting thirst traps on TikTok.

[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 18 hours ago

Thanks for finally doing the right thing, Jagmeet! It only took your complete and utter defeat and losing official party status... but I guess it's better late than never. (Please elect a socialist leader now.)

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

On Jan 1st, the 3 major canada-wide parties were:

  • Liberal, headed by Justin Trudeau out of Papineau
  • Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre out of Carleton
  • NDP headed by Jagmeet Singh out of Burnaby South

On May 1st the 3 major parties will be:

  • Liberal, headed by Mark Carney out of Nepean
  • Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre(?) out of ?
  • NDP headed by ? out of ?
[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

NDP aren't even a major party anymore with 7 seats, sadly

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 27 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They're not an "official party", but they still got 6% of the vote. But, because of FPTP they only got 2% of the seats. Bloc Quebecois got 6.4% of the vote and 6.7% of the seats. There are still a lot of people out there who would want to vote NDP, but who voted Liberal to achieve "anybody but Conservative". The plan worked, but I think they'd like some electoral reform.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I completely agree to be clear.

But "major party" means something in election parlance, and unfortunately because of all the required strategic voting, it means NDP won't be at the next debate.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

all the required strategic voting,

Much of BC was lost through three-way ties that the blues won by a nose. It seems that, for some ridings, strategy wasn't strong enough.

If two Oranges 'cross' to Red to give Mark a mandate, can they 'cross' back before the next election?

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

Yeah I hope the fact that both the NDP and the LPC got screwed in BC on so many ridings causes their hopeful coalition government to actually implement voting reform this time.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, other.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, other.

Canada, Separatist, Separatist, Canada?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago

That's why I carefully worded it "canada-wide parties". If it were just big parties by vote, you'd definitely be right. In fact, Bloc is the only big party that came through the last few months with their leader intact.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Pierre Poilievre likely to stay as party leader since he's very popular with the base. Unless someone like Doug Ford decides to fight him for the position.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Pierre is very not popular - when Trudeau quit he had a higher approval rating than Pierre. People this time were voting for the party, not for Pierre.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

He's not popular overall, but he's very popular with the conversative base.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The election results (and polling on leader specifically) do not back that claim up.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm talking about apples you are talking about oranges. Look at polling for conversative support for Pierre Poilievre or party leader elections where he got 68.15%.

[–] small44@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

This is far from unpopular. I believe it's a lot highter than many previous conservative party leaders

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Not surprised he is stepping down. A very tough night.