Canada

I would love to see it be their #1 demand. If they did it, it would probably mean you'd never see another Liberal majority, but I think there's a good chance that you'd see more left-leaning people elected. It goes against the interests of the Liberal party, but it might be in the interests of many of the things Liberals say they care about.

If it did pass, it would make voting "anybody but Conservative" much easier, which might really hurt the cons, which might cause them to split. That would be good too. Right now the conservatives are a bad alliance of small-government types who want to cut taxes and cut spending, and big-government types who want the government to go after anything they see as "woke" or "DEI". It would be much healthier if those two could be split from each-other.

Isn’t it a no brainer for the NDP to make electoral reform a deal breaking issue?

No, because the NDP is more of a hostage to the current result than the Liberals. If another election happens in the short term, it’s more likely that the ridings they had NDP/Liberals splits will tilt towards Liberals than the opposite.

The NDP will have to be very very acquiescent in their “deal breaking issues” because of their fragile position.

And on the other hand, the Liberals are benefiting from FPTP, so that sailed ship is now approaching the horizon.

electoral reform seems like an acceptable deal from their end too, right?

I find it very unlikely. In practice, a two party system is good for them because they’re one of the two parties.

A few scattered thoughts on this:

• The NDP are leaderless, and are therefore agendaless until they can get organized again.

• They're also probably broke, and in no position to fight another election.

• While they certainly hold a good position in the new HoC, there's bound to be some introspection about how that worked out for them last time.

What's the best way to start this process? Other countries have done it, why aren't we? My riding is conservative so I'm not sure how to help here.

Vote splitting felt very frustrating this election, but NDP can't afford another election yet, and they need space to rebrand and rebuild. I can't see them formally hitching themselves to the Liberals again right now. But hopefully they come to some backroom understandings in order to keep a stable government. And NDP voters who went Liberal this election are not going to be interested in threats to topple the government.

Betteridge's law: no. The liberals were the smart choice this time but there is no reason for them change the rules that let them win.

Yes, we should be very excited! We must greatly pressure Mark Carney and the liberals to put their country first so we can improve our economy and ensure state stability with proportional representation. We must have a national citizen's assembly formed now to look at all the electoral systems to decide on the best one for the mps to work together to implement!

The liberals will find working with the bloc a lot harder than the NDP

Please elaborate? I don't see this.

Absolutely, the vote splitting has cut both ways (all three ways, including the Bloc Quebecois). Three broadly left/centre-left parties are competing against a right that is, on the surface at least, united. All three of them stand to benefit from electoral reform in a way that the Conservatives do not.

Much of the Conservative strategy is around splitting the vote. In a post-electoral reform Canada, that strategy becomes useless and the Conservatives will have to bring something new. Their ability to pivot to a completely new strategy within a single election cycle is questionable, so getting this done is directly in Carney's interest right now.

They could also try working with the BQ since that party is in 3rd and has more seats than the NDP

please, do...