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The Equality and Human Rights Commission has published interim guidance following last week's Supreme Court decision. It instructs organisations that manage public spaces and workplaces to create segregated mixed-sex bathrooms, washing and changing facilities for Trans+ people to use.

It does this on the basis that same-sex spaces can only be used by people that align with the Supreme Court's definition of 'biological sex', while also saying that Trans+ perceived to be of the wrong gender can't use bathrooms that match their biological sex.

If taken beyond interim guidance and made statutory, it would be the biggest human rights disaster since racial segregation and apartheid.

The guidance covers workplaces, schools, and services open to the public, such as hospitals, shops and restaurants.

It stipulates that, where possible, mixed-sex toilets, washing and changing facilities should now be provided. In an interim period, it sets out where this is not possible, trans people should not be put in a position where there are no facilities for them to use.

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[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Feel bad for that flying squid guy, he moved him and his daughter out there for better trans rights and now it's getting as bad as US

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 19 minutes ago

I think about him from time to time. I thought it was because his daughter is a lesbian, though? Unless I'm mistaken. Didn't really stalk the guy.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago

Dunno why there'll be a need to segregate single units. I think all bathrooms should be single units.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 9 points 16 hours ago

So should we all be making sure the mixed sex toilets are the most used until they need more mixed than single to cope?

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 5 points 14 hours ago

I think we should just get rid of all public toilets. Everyone doing their business out in the open obviates all questions of segregation and means there will be witnesses if anyone gets out of hand. We could still have dedicated areas for it, perhaps in places like Kensington & Chelsea.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

We should not forget the original aim of the ruling which is genocide. That last part about introducing mixed-sex toilets in thanks to public protests. They work. Keep up with public protests until the ruling is reversed.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What ethnic group is being systematically murdered here?

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not an ethnic group but transgender people are the targets of genocide. It doesn't start with systematic killings. It ends there, and denying them medical treatment is already systemic killing, only indirect.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 20 minutes ago

Genocide refers to the systemic forced killing or forced sterilisation of an ethnic group.

Transgender people in the United Kingdom are entitled to the same medical treatment as everybody else. They have a right to life and a right to reproduce and are not forcibly sterilised.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If taken beyond interim guidance and made statutory, it would be the biggest human rights disaster since racial segregation and apartheid.

What?

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

When black people couldn't use the same bathrooms as white folk. Here, Trans women including those post op for 20 - 30 years are not allowed to use the women's bathroom and have to use the men's. Likewise, a trans man, born woman, that has been a man for decades has to use the women's bathroom.

Wasn't sure it needed to be spelt out, but needs to be to understand how ridiculous all this is (because of a court case in Scotland about women's representation on boards). Shocking how many rights got trashed with that and how many transhobic politicians got excited.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's like comparing apples and oranges.

Trans women including those post op for 20 - 30 years are not allowed to use the women's bathroom and have to use the men's.

According to the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, you have to be born as a woman in order to be a woman.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A court I'd not heard about until now, for a case funded by a transphobe who writes shitty wizard books.

To go further, I think the judgement is wrong and probably has their own biases shining through.

I think it is hard to see injustice if you do not want to see it.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 22 minutes ago

That's your opinion in which I respect, but comparing such a thing to apartheid is a bit of a stretch, and I'd strongly recommend against such a thing.