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Tensions between India and Pakistan escalated sharply on Thursday, as the Pakistani government said it would consider it “an act of war” if India followed through on a threat to block the flow of crucial rivers as punishment for a deadly militant attack in Kashmir.

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[–] Gandhi70@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Great, another conflict.And this one not only about religion but it is also about water rights. And both parties have nukes.

Cannot wait to see, how this plays out...

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

This one has been going on for decades,

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That actually means they won't use nukes since it is suicide.

Japan didn't have nukes, so they were nuked by US.

[–] Gandhi70@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That actually means they won't use nukes since it is suicide.

Unless a madmen or fanatic is running the show. We will see...

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

You are right about Madman.

M.A.D, Mutually Assured Destruction, It would have to a very extreme situation for a country to go nuclear against another nuclear power. A situation where suicide is the better option.

Also have to remember that the madman is not the one actually launching nukes. He is giving orders, hopefully the people actually launching nuke or carrying out orders have families (and prioritize their families over country) and are not mad too. There needs to be madmen all along the chain of command to want Mutual Assured Destruction.

[–] Gandhi70@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly I am not that optimistic.

Event without a real madman we had several close calls regarding nuclear escalation.

Remember the cuba crisis? Or NATO maneuver "Able Archer" during the 80th?

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yea, those events, nothing actually happened, just sabre rattling and media magnification.

I also remember actual events where an attack took place, like Ukraine long-range strikes inside russia and Ukraine conquering russia territories, nothing happened. I remember russia placing nukes in Belarus to trigger a new cuba crisis. To russia disappointment, nothing happened.

But you are right in that anything can happen, even butter fingers during peace time. The risk probably becomes more when there is tension, so keeping communication open between each other is important. The good thing is that unlike evil russia, India has a no-first-use (NFU) policy.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t these two countries have nukes? 2025 is a shitshow

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It is good they both have nukes, as that would mean it is suicide(MAD-Mutually Assured Destruction) to use nukes. So it won't be used, only in very extreme cases nukes would be used, extreme in the sense that suicide is the better option. Only if mutually assured destruction is the better option.

If one didn't have nukes then it's a problem as the one without nukes will get nuked, especially if they are not a neighboring country. Just like how japan was nuked by US (Japan is not a neighbour, far away and doesn't have nuke.).