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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 14 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You know how we thought " How could chrome get any worse?" well, we have an answer.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 20 minutes ago

And if you thought there was some natural end point to enshittification, here's your evidence that there's no such thing.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 1 hour ago

WTF? Just download it for free.

[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 2 hours ago

Isn't Google going to do it themselves?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 13 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Are these fucks stupid? Chromium is open sourced. They can do it themselves

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 15 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They don't want to buy the browser. They want to buy the brand and the users. Chrome makes up over half the browser market. Think of all the data they could extract from Chrome users. It would cost significantly more to fork chromium and grow the user base to a point where they could extract anything valuable from them, and that's assuming they'd be successful enough to make it happen.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 2 hours ago

No, MS just wants to expand their monopoly, but "MS buying most common browser, after antitrust laws already forbid internet explorer" doesnt ring so well.

[–] RickC137@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TON618@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I like to think if people want whatever it is OpenAI thinks browsers need AI for, the userbase will manifest itself.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Great! Now not only can chrome eat all my system memory, it can use all my GPU memory at the same time! It's genius!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Likely it'll use the cloud for processing, you'll just get really hard-to-opt-out AI features, like "prompt by default" and "AI autocomplete", which you can only "snooze" as they'll automatically be turned back on the moment there's a "great new feature", like putting a filter on by default on image generators to fool the eye that it's made by real artists.

[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 hours ago

This can't happen. Not because I think google is doing a wonderful job, but it's got serious market share now. Basically a monopoly. It needs to leave the hands of for profit companies and be transitioned to a foundation.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

don't they already have brave for that?

[–] madis@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 14 hours ago

Chrome or Chromium project?

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 132 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Why connect to the Internet with it then. The browser could just make everything up on the fly.

Got questions about a medication?

Maybe you want to check up on some disease symptoms?

AI can make something that sounds vaguely plausible.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Why use head if you can use ChatGPT. Remove head and start working smarter.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 64 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why connect to the Internet with it then

To check if your subscription to their models is still valid of course

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And send back telemetry and training data.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

AKA all of your personal data, you know, just in case we need it

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 20 points 20 hours ago

Browsing the internet will be like playing AI Quake II, you'll think you are in this alternate universe.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 57 points 19 hours ago

OpenAI is like a zombie stumbling around trying to infect everything. We shove it away because it’s fuckin’ gross and we want nothing to do with it, while the bosses that reanimated it are like “well fuck, we made this thing, we have to use it for something.”

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 100 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Sounds like the best thing that could happen to Firefox

[–] grue@lemmy.world 45 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Mozilla spinning off control of its development to an independent group the way they did with Thunderbird would be the best thing that could happen to Firefox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird :

Operated by MZLA Technologies Corporation, a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, Thunderbird is an independent, community-driven project that is managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird community.

Chrome self-destructing because of stupidity like AI would only ever manage to be a close second, at best.

[–] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 6 points 17 hours ago

Has Mozilla indicated any openness to taking that approach with Firefox?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 49 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

Unfortunately, Mozilla is investing a ton of money into AI, too.

[–] Bazimon@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Look into Waterfox instead.

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 7 points 9 hours ago

Mozilla works mainly on LOCAL AI not this corporate trash like closedAI

[–] exu@feditown.com 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Some of their I initiatives are good, like the built-in local translation tool we now have.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

Also their initiative to recognise images and generate alt-text for screen-reader users.

My sister is blind and screen readers are close to useless on the web, so it was great to hear Mozilla is working on that.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

A desperate attempt of revenue diversification.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Considering how little they invest into their core product compared to all the other shit and how much money the top brass earns despite declining market share, I don't think they're hurting for money that much.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They are investing a lot in their core product. Problem is that you can't really monatize it. You want Firefox to be paywalled?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Ideally it would be financed by user donations. Probably not that realistic for a project like this, though.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

You can't finance a massive project like that with donations. This isn't like Signal or some small project like that. Firefox is MASSIVE.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, web browsers cost hundreds of millions per year to maintain, they're mind-bogglingly complicated and costly.

I'd really hope the Linux Foundation would help contribute towards the budget, but LF is quite pro Chromium.

I don't think end users can even come close to funding Firefox development, unfortunately.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 16 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Mozilla will loose Google's deal money.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world -3 points 9 hours ago

Firefox, the software mainly driven by Mozilla, which is heavily investing in AI and ads ventures? That Firefox?

But, maybe "it will be different this time", I guess.

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[–] blinx615@lemmy.ml 26 points 18 hours ago

Chromium is open source? What a concept...

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

How the fuck would this be more cost effective than them making their own chrome based browser and not be a demonstration of their over inflated operating costs and company valuation?

If you are paying for a service that is charging you enough to allow them to buy the most widly used browser from a company whose business model is to monopolize data, then maybe you're paying them a titbit more than what the service they're providing is worth.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 61 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure they're less interested about buying Chrome than they are about buying Chrome's market share

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The sheer market share that forces websites develop for chrome for maximum visibility, to force websites to allow their content to be scraped to be usable by the average user.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

What allows them to buy chrome is ridiculous investment money, not what they're charging. From what I read, I think they're still running a loss because required processing power is still just so insanely ridiculous for AI.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 25 points 20 hours ago

How to kill Chrome faster, make it AI only. LOL!!!

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world -5 points 13 hours ago
[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

Good thing I’ve never used the garbage that is chrome or chatgpt 👍

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