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By all criteria, this a concentration camp. Not “concentration camp” as rhetorical inflation, or emotionally manipulative shorthand, or edgy metaphor—but as in: literally.

As in: detention without trial, state control, inhumane living conditions, forced labor, dehumanization, brutal violence, isolation from accountability, psychological torture, and—by every available logical extension—murder.

That last one we can’t yet verify in the strict evidentiary sense, but the circumstances suggest it like smoke suggests fire, and they are already trying to hide their actions and deny what is occurring.

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[–] smokingpistol@lemm.ee 1 points 2 minutes ago

lol find a better picture, The guys in this picture that you put up are all criminals

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago) (3 children)

America has been doing this for decades. Look at Guantanamo Bay. We used the excuse of terrorism then and now we're using the excuse of boarder security. As long as people can be controlled by their greed ~~of~~ or fear then this will continue to happen.

Edit: autocorrect...

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

greed

fear

And especially disgust. They weaponize it so much.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Also look at FDRs concentration camps for Japanese Americans. This shit is a time honored tradition in this country.

I don't want to minimize the suffering of Japanese Americans in the camps in any way, but from the history I've read they seem to be a few steps up from whatever the hell is going on at CECOT.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We were always the first Nazis that won.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

More like winners who later decided their defeated enemies were cool. 😅

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

America was absolutely a part of the formulation of the nazis. Look up Henry Ford. His plagiarized propaganda was attributed as a source used in the formulation of the final solution. Fuck even Thomas Edison was trying to talk him down. Look at the america first party. Over 20 congressional representatives were in active communication and even received funding from Nazis. Some had received pre written speeches that they actually used.

If anyone "won" anything, it would be the Nazis, not Americans. Because here we are...

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Plagiarising propaganda by one president or members of some organization receiving funding from Nazis doesn't make the nation Nazi. That's quite the stretch.

Countless fringe political groups organizing on Telegram to adopt fascist views & looks, holding public demonstrations wearing swastikas downtown, targeting minority groups, and stripping people of their power and their history from the top down is more like it. Because back in the day none of that shit would fly especially around people who fought in the war, but it does now.

If anyone "won" anything, it would be the Nazis

I think you mean US enemies? Because these views were cultivated by them way after the fact.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm sure Republicans would say the same and more about me, but I'd take one migrant who took a risk to work harder than almost any Americans do and give their children a better life (funny how they actually do what the American mythos claims to value, they walk the walk of our largely bullshit rhetoric), at our big corpo's invitation no less, than a hundred of my fellow American supposed conservatives born in the developed world acting like they hit a triple and reveling in the suffering of those who weren't born in what was once a cradle of safety until they demolished it with their ballot, seeking to destroy their enemies, aka most Americans, in the zero sum game Faux News drilled into their head.

These people are unashamedly drunk on the schaudenfreude of cruelty. To me, their willful rejection of basic human empathy means they are wholly devoid of value.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Even if you were a massive shithead racist, and only wanted white Americans working in America, it doesn't matter. Even if you were to somehow convince white, natural born Americans to work the shitty farm, housekeeping, and industrial cleaning jobs, it doesn't matter.

There simply aren't enough white, natural born Americans to fulfill all of those jobs. Our economy will fucking collapse without migrant labor. Our food supply will collapse. We depend on a lot of people working really awful jobs for peanuts to have food on the table every day. There is no amount of rhetoric that will change that. And if it takes the collapse of the United States for these motherfuckers to learn that then so be it. I'll see y'all at the pitchforks and torches rally.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is something people around the world need to understand.

All the developed countries with plummeting birth rates should be actively competing for citizens.

Though for non-US nations they are already getting some help from our self-imposed brain drain.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago

South Korea would like to know your location

[–] Prikkeres@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

Are they already building ovens?

[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago

That first paragraph is perfect: By all criteria, this a concentration camp. Not “concentration camp” as rhetorical inflation, or emotionally manipulative shorthand, or edgy metaphor—but as in: literally. It's so fucking frustrating how the media has done so much work normalizing Trump that you can't just call things what they obviously are. Trump is doing all of this stuff loudly and proudly in all our faces but if you call CECOT a concentration camp, or you point out that he dropped a fucking shitcoin before the day of his inauguration to take bribes out in the open, you just have TDS. It must be so easy and comforting to just be a nice little Trumple cultist and slurp up everything he says and dismiss all evidence of your eyes and ears.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 16 points 6 hours ago

Look at the shade of their head. These people had hair. Without hair its easy to think they are typical American gang members with shaved heads. But look at the tan-less skin. They had hair and they were shaved to prevent lice but also to remove their personality. Look at some with glasses. Gang members often hate people with glasses because those people often have more money to pay for glasses.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

By the way, only some concentrations camps in Nazi Germany were exterminations camps. So even without any mass murder this can easily be regarded as equivalent in function to a concentration camp.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

We invented concentration camps in the US to deal with Chinese and Native American "undesirables," back in the mid 1800s. This is just the third time, at least, we have started using them. We only pretend to be better than the Nazis because we didn't have the idea to use them as mass murder camps, just slow death camps.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

You forget 120,000 people of Japanese descent during WW2. And the Biden ICE camps.
And how about Guantanamo for some added gruesome torture?
The one that Obama definitely and immediately was going to close when elected.
And it would've been no problem since the US used Polish black sites and other vasal places to do it.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I started the timeframe in the mid 1800s. The WWII camps were the second or third time we used them. One could argue that the modern day Industrial Prison Complex is also another variation that we are using of the same theme.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 12 points 6 hours ago

Specifically, extermination camps are industrialized human suffering. Something like an assembly line that builds cars, except the output is death.

All that said, splitting hairs about the definition of this stuff is not a good place to be.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Home of the not so often brave and land of the less and less free.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Land of the fee,

And the home of the slave

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