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[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago

Oh fuck me! The standard of living has already taken such a giant nose dive during my lifetime. First it was corporations and now this shit? You have got to be fucking kidding me.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Aaaand the winner of the election is the guy who was rich enough to afford the most AI to vote for him with 99.9999% of the 15 trillion votes cast.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 43 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Why not?! We’ve already decided corporations are people, and people are not people; this is just par for the fucking course.

Goddamnit.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

I had the same visceral reaction reading the title of this post

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Alright. I think I’ve had enough Lemmy for today. Don‘t wanna get too depressed before lunch.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 22 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I feel like the rise of corporate personhood is the elephant in the room this article seems to avoid acknowledging.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

What benefits does it get them?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Its only a matter of time till we get companies run entire by AI.

We kept asking in scifi if ai could ever be given the status of a legal human.

We failed to ask if capitalism has already build in a bureaucratic loophole that just gives it to them.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Its only a matter of time till we get companies run entire by AI.

I don't think that will change much. Companies have been acting inhumane for decades without the aid of AI.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

I actually replied a similar thing to someone else.

Here i am specifically speaking about the bureaucratic path a non human could use to obtain person rights.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 7 hours ago

Corpo can do no wrong, literally legal kill shiti organics and the state provides with state aid on top and makes legal frameworks for the profit seeking behaviours.

[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

AI could never be considered a person because you have to be human for that to apply. Even if it was a human and we uploaded it, that still wouldn’t apply. You need a pulse. Or at the very least, your head.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"personhood" by the law only refers to the ability to sign contracts.

companies and states already have that.

what you're talking about is a "natural person".

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You do realize that corporations have legal personhood?

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Also certain rivers and forest can be legal person by law to protect their interests.

[–] ERROR_100_000_100@infosec.pub 3 points 9 hours ago

Hail Skynet!

[–] giorovv@feddit.it 4 points 12 hours ago

Very good article.

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

this all sounds really bad and stuff, until you realize that ai CEOs wouldn't necessarily give themselves vast amounts of money. ngl other than the stuff with copyright this doesn't sound too bad.

The problem is with humanity giving up control to machines.

I mean, humanity (especially in the West) has already given up large amounts of power to corporate CEOs, which can be modelled as soulless machines well enough, but installing AI would take it even one step further.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

AI CEOs would be trained on human CEOs so they absolutely would.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Both are true.

The first ai companies will be prompted by Humans.

A vast majority will be for profit. People want the ai to do the hard company work and collect the profit in their sleep as “owner” of the ai agent.

A good few people will do exactly the same but request non profit style and ethical focus.

Till we get to a mythical stage of agi that can actually decide globally if it thinks a company should exist or not and what purpose it should have, this is more or less same as the status quo.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Till we get to a mythical stage of agi that can actually decide globally if it thinks a company should exist or not and what purpose it should have, this is more or less same as the status quo.

This will never happen because why would the humans in power let an agi exist that is beneficial towards the general public? The idea that agi will ever be a beneficial replacement for humans certainly is a myth.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 56 minutes ago

I never started “beneficial”

Its entirely possible that ai agents build, regardless of whose interest, keep running after their original owner dies.

If the job is “become an industrialist, expand and drop % of all profits on this bank account” and its actually competent it could lead to industry itself being more and more monopolized by fewer and fewer ai.

That would halt the status quo where many human agents create companies for different reasons and industry is an ethical melting pot. Thats what i meant.

Till that point in time the morality of ai businessmen is not different in effect then a human businessmen. Once that point. This morality shifts into either extinction or thrive for humankind.

[–] knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

weird to think that the richest people in the world wouldn't try to get more money, that's their entire thing

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

The hope is they put the thing on auto pilot and then it replaces the CEO without them knowing due to their own hubris.