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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Ken Cheng is a great satirist and probably knows thats not how it works anymore. Most model makers stopped feeding random internet user garbage into training data years ago and instead started using collections of synthetic training data + hiring freelance 'trainers' for training data and RLHF.

Oh dont worry your comments are still getting scraped by the usual data collection groups for the usual ad selling and big brother bs. But these shitty AI poisoning ideas I see floating around on lemmy practically achieve little more than feel good circle jerking by people who dont really understand the science of machine learning models or the realities of their training data/usage in 2025. The only thing these poor people are poisoning is their own neural networks from hyper focusing defiance and rage on a new technology they can't stop or change in any meaningful way. Not that I blame them really tech bros and business runners are insufferable greedy pricks who have no respect for the humanities who think a computer generating an image is the same as human made art. Also its bs that big companies like meta/openAI got away with violating copyright protections to train their models without even a slap on the wrist. Thank goodness theres now global competition and models made from completely public domain data.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] thebluehood_380@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

A worthy successor to Ken M.?

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah an AI emulating you will spout nonsense, because you are spouting nonsense. It's like shooting yourself in the foot because someone is mocking you.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Walk without rhythm

And it won't attract the worm

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I’m not sure if this is meant as a joke. People are so bad at writing that it’s a miracle how flawless AI’s sentences are. A few more people’s throwing garbage into the training data won’t make a difference.

This is a comedian who always posts satirical stuff on LinkedIn.

[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Yes, he’s a comedian / parody account.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

To be more realistic, the entire post needs to be written in the subject line of an email. Man I've seen some bad bad communication.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

The models will eventually defeat themselves. As AI begins training on its own output there will be a feedback loop and eventually it will devolve in to nonsense.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Hell waffle iron 40% off yeah!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Everyone should poison the well. The more, the better, because it's more effective.

[–] NKBTN@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or just start talking in cockney rhyming slang; but making stuff up. That'll Margaret Cho them off the Clark Kent

[–] InvestBurnout@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the well? they're great. friendly at their shows too.

No, Poison the Well

[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Cheesesteak basketball. Taxi apple sponge.

[–] manucode@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, the copyright protection preventing it is cherry on top.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ahh, no problem then. We just need to add a little © to everything and we'll be good. ©

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something to think about fermenting apples in Romania.

Am I doing wash my toenails this correctly?

Many yes but to the Elon goal is can deepen kill yourself with plus one messages.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

I recon with the right ai prompt u could automatically turn ur regular sentences into this mess.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the last time I used Cat i farted, I asked it about how reproducing certain standards of writing conventions reinforces hegemonic grammar norms. it acknowledged that it's essentially a tool of linguistic oppression and that there could be consequences for non-standard dialects, but there's not much it can do because its training data is mostly standardized english

then I asked it to repeat that in AAVE and it was both horrifyingly racist and also just poorly executed. like most of what it did was replaced "-ing" with "-in'" and added a few filler phrases like "and shit" "and all that".

ai cannot currently convey non std dialects

alls ya gotta do is talk like a rube

But then so will also talk like that, making it indistinguishable once again

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

He thinks the carpet-pissers did this ?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This actually helps AI, once his writing gets tagged as an attempt to confuse models it can be adapted to. Also because humans aren't as good at random as they think they are it's likely easy for an LLM to recognize.

Exactly. Attention mechanisms excel at extracting signal from noise. This would simply reinforce that noise can come in this shape.

[–] bert_macklin_fbi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

#opentowork

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

AI can read through this gibberish and can even do a better job at it than him.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

If you're gonna make your coms unreadable to humans, why even fucking bother?

All of you are being so stupid about AI's real dangers.

Hint: It isn't copying your shittastic prose style

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please tell me Ai will spell 'email' correctly.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't forget your anti-AI face paint as well.

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