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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 hours ago

This is the point where you should depose Trump.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 13 hours ago

The Trump administration really is all about taking the mile where the Bush administration was given an inch.

[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

So let's prioritize, Donny. Those with more felonies and broken laws go first, since they're the main thugs society should focus on. Deal?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

If that is the case then it is time to fold up shop and start anew. Our system is broken and that is the onlyplus side of Trump. He is magnifying the holes.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What plus? I'm not seeing one. Every system has weak points, my friend. Exploiting them doesn't make life better. It's not like we didn't know...

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Weak points shouldn't be in a societal system. Checks and balances work when the people have a way to enforce it. Looking around, I don't see any.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Weak points shouldn’t be in a societal system.

Shouldn't, but we don't live in an ideal world. Show me one society without corruption and I'll show you a fairytale.

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Except that's exactly what Musk, Thiel, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Andressen, Yarvin and the Trump regime want. I think the system is good. I think the people need to exercise their rights to Checks and balances.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The system created Musk, Thiel, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Andressen. The Supreme court allowed citizens united. The system allowed companies to poison our environment. Seems the system is working as intended.

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So Maybe, the great filter isn't nuclear war, maybe it isn't falling birthrates, maybe it isn't climate change. Maybe the great filter is money?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And getting rid of the two party system is the answer. Maybe in 1796 when there was 35,726 voters it worked. Money is only a part of the problem.

Power is filter too. The same reason we don't correct the police in the U.S.

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

and where does power and influence come from? It's The accrueation of capital.

[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's capitalism, so, no it's not good.

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

We already live in a post capitalist society. We are the capital that generates the data points using their smart devices which they use to profile and socially engineer us. You are the product. Welcome to Techno feudalism.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago

Giving everyone a trial is the literal definition of what the US stands for.

I hate Trump and MAGA. They are complete idiots. Just divide the country and let them go be Russia 2.0 until they eventually collapse.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 144 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Sixth Amendment

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-6/

Oh that pesky US Constitution is in the way again.

Non-walled link to OPs article

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 41 points 1 day ago

don't forget the Seventh amendment - civil trials where the value at question is more than $20 you always have the right to a jury trail.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago

Stop being a Divisive COMMIETARD! We ALL know the Founders COULDNT Predict the Future and made SOME Mistakes!

-Conservatives that Defend the Constitution TO THE DEATH every time a Gunman SHOOTS UP an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

Not to mention the fifth and fourteenth amendments.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Oh it’s just that simple hey? Fuck this guys a moron.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 86 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weird how the man with a laundry list of convictions to his name suddenly no longer believes in the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He believes in "innocent after proven guilty"

[–] grue@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

"Innocent after proven guilty" for him, "guilty without proof" for a everyone else.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“We cannot give everyone a trial, because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years,” he wrote. “We would need hundreds of thousands of trials for the hundreds of thousands of Illegals we are sending out of the Country. Such a thing is not possible to do. What a ridiculous situation we are in.”

I’ve noticed that Trump often does identify real issues. That’s what allows him to pitch insane, half-baked, and cruel solutions so successfully.

We haven’t had sufficient funding for processing asylum claims for decades upon decades, and the process itself is outdated, slow, and ineffective for the country and migrant alike.

We should be fixing that, instead of outsourcing death camps. But “doing paperwork better” is a pretty underwhelming pitch.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed, in a lot of ways he is a response to the failure to solve real problems that have plagued us for years. Of course none of his solutions will work if they are even coherent. But a lot of people realise that the status quo can't or won't do anything so they decide to give a strongman a chance.

It's the same with the US paying more than its fair share of the NATO budget he likes to harp on about.

He's right about that; however we do get a lot back from that in other ways that aren't directly tied to budget support, not to mention the goodwill of the countries that are actually on the frontlines fighting wars, unlike America right now.

Like, pulling out of NATO is not the solution to the other countries not paying their "fair share", nor is forcing tariffs on the world because you don't understand what a trade deficit is because you apparently bonespurred your way out of college too.

NATO is a critical effort that should not be hampered by which countries have what amounts of money to put in, but in the desire to stand united against truly great evil rising again like it did in 1914 and 1939. Everyone helps out in the ways they can best do it. European countries are literally on the frontlines of our current proxy wars and need our help to keep it from spilling over elsewhere. Because if that happens, the nickles and dimes we're spending on NATO above everyone else will seem like chump change.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

“We cannot do the thing we have been doing for 250 fucking years”

I cannot wait for this lecherous, odorous sack of bile to kick the bucket.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 73 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As long as we're skipping trials, let's go ahead and find Donald guilty of treason.

That would take a trial. Let’s go straight to execution.

Can and will. I can't wait for yours. And, frankly, you should feel lucky to get one.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Hmm... Maybe instead of recruiting high school kids to go die in land grab wars the government should be recruiting them to become lawyers and legal clerks. Don't wait for the upper class to produce educated literate people; the upper class don't produce many kids because it's far more profitable to park money into the stock market than to spend it raising children. Not enough educated literate kids? Pay educators more. Teaching should not be a fallback afterthought.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

In my country, a person can sue for release if the trial is taking too long. Can't people in America ?

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago

Yes but it almost never does anything

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Part of the reason they're going after non-citizens is because the question of whether non-citizens have the same constitutional rights as citizens is complicated under US law.

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It shouldn't be* complicated. Non-citizens and literally all "persons" are entitled to every constitutional right. I'm not even American and I know that.

EDIT: It shouldn't be, but it is

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would tend to agree that it kind of contradicts the whole "all men are created equal" thing if you decide that US citizens are worthy of certain human rights but non-citizens aren't. In fact referring to them as "inalienable" means that they have those rights whether the government recognizes them or not. But I'm also not a lawyer.

Correct. The issue, of course, is that without due process, anyone can be accused of being here illegally and deported if you can't get time in front of a judge to show documents and prove your case.

This is why citizens and non-citizens are paired up in regards to that law.

It's a catch 22 otherwise.

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I only know this from some legal eagle stuff, IANAL

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I get the impression that they've put up so many weird bureaucratic gotchas around it that they make it hard to assert your right to a speedy trial without jeopardizing your own defense at the same time. So everybody ends up "voluntarily waiving" it instead and then the State can take as long as it wants.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

Americans should be able because the constitution guarantees a fair and speedy trial, however, that hasn't been applied in decades. i would love to know how long is too long in your country, if you have a news article available