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[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago

lol okay but do they have multiple trillions of dollars in debt from endless military invasions in the middle east?

US: 1

China: no iphone

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Multiple people here seem to be confused by “10G” thinking cellular data, but this is not that. It is an improvement of fiber optic home internet which resulted in 10-gigabit download speeds:

The deployment of 10G broadband is based on the world's leading 50G PON solution. By upgrading the underlying architecture of the optical fiber access network, the single-user bandwidth is upgraded from the traditional gigabit level to the 10,000-megabit level, and the network delay is compressed to the millisecond level.

See also Wikipedia

Most current residential networks being built in the US support 2GiB (250MB)/S on a good day. That's about enough to saturate most disk drives, meaning of your were writing or reading from a hard disk, the hardware would likely be the bottleneck and not the network.

At 10G speeds, most M.2 SSDs would be saturated. So there's literally no difference (assuming the server can supply the full 10GiB connection), between accessing data over the network and accessing it from a local M.2 drive (ignoring latency of course).

That's actually kinda wild over any distance that isn't just LAN fiber. You can get 25GiB within an office pretty easily with high end switches that have 25GiB ports.

The only people getting even close to this in the US are commercial customers that are leasing a whole dedicated fiber on a back haul network like Zayo or from the Department of Transportation (they pull a ton of dark fiber on highway projects)

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

we must all return to 3g. i want my battery life back. phones were never meant to last 1 day at full charge. 1 month should be the minimum blob-help

[–] WafflesTasteGood@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

Switching my phone to 4g was a huge save on my battery life, and basically not noticed since I only seem to have good 5g signal in places that I also have wifi so it's useless.

Huge battery life is basically impossible now tho because hyper efficiency is a completely lost concept these days. Just because phones have near PC level processing power doesn't mean it has to all be used.

[–] niph@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pretty cool that this is happening in Hebei, traditionally one of the poorest provinces.

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's in the Xiong'An New Area, a city China is building from scratch to relieve pressure from Beijing. It's intended as a hub for next-gen technology and some government offices will be moved there as well.

I wouldn't call it a completely new capital city, but it does remind me of Sejong in South Korea, which was built as a new capital but only some offices have been moved there.

[–] WafflesTasteGood@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is pretty cool for Internet to remote locations, as an alternative to satellites.

Getting that kind of speed in rural mountain regions where running physical cables is extremely difficult is definitely a huge deal.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's also worth noting that this stuff is very important outside consumer facing internet. This allows for teleoperation of robots such as remote surgeries, and other kinds of automation where you need high bandwidth and low latency.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is up there with SSD speeds, meaning I/O bound tooling can now be run on the network with no additional time cost over co-locating compute and data. That's huge.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ironically, one of the 6G proposals is a megaconstellation of very low earth orbit satellites.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh great just what we need more shitty satellites cluttering the night sky

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Too late to easily observe space from Earth, too early to cheaply observe space from orbit. ooooooooooooooh

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When I was out at Pine Ridge last year we were in a super low light pollution area and when we were watching the meteor shower that comes around every august we saw the line of Starlink satellites and in that moment I wished upon a star that a hypersonic missile would directly hit Elon Musk. Like not even a warhead, just a rod of tungsten hitting him at terminal velocity or more would do it for me.

[–] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Could china stop winning? At some point it almost feels like they're just rubbing it in our faces. 'Oh, look at us! we've got amazing public transit, education and healthcare. We don't really have homeless because everyone gets a house, and the vast majority of our people own their homes' Apparently the only thing China can't do is be humble.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I thought it was a plurality owning the homes just under 50%

Source: I looked it up once and cba to do it rn

[–] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There is no agreed-upon definition of 6G yet, and now we have companies advertising 10G. I'm sorry but it's giving 5G NR.

[–] Bruja@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

They’re seemingly redefining it to something measurable, as it’s a 10 Gbit connection speed, so calling it 10G.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

This is not related to cellular data

[–] Blep@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Blep@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

That is genuinely ridiculous