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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are so pathetically terrified of people seeing how badly Chinese tech absolutely shits on anything in garbage ass US.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 week ago

It destroys the whole myth that people in US have it the best, and this is the only system possible.

[–] rigor@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Most of the "futuristic China tech" is just every day life in the PRC. It's also funny to have to throw in the paragraph near the end the 'others' worry the Huawei device he brought would spy on him. Who is worrying? What proof is there? There is no elaboration, it's just inserted as it's seemingly impossible for western news to simply have a positive article about China.

[–] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, just for the sake of simplicity, let's go ahead and accept that premise for a moment and say that it actively IS "spying" on him...so what? Two things come to mind: 1. A whole ton of really rich multinational corporations already actively spy on me every day just from me being online so they can sell that data to advertisers. 2. What is China going to do with MY data that is any worse than what the alphabet soup agencies in the USA government do with it? I honestly think that the PRC has shown itself to be far more trustworthy for the average worker than any of the capitalist/settler colonialist governments of "the west."

To be clear, I don't actually believe that they're using tech to spy on people, at least not in any nefarious manner. Beyond userdata used to make shit work and the normal state censorship (which I understand the need for considering the material conditions and the west having repeatedly tried to use propaganda lies to try and foment color revolutions before) I haven't seen evidence that they're using that data otherwise. Hell, Xiaohongshu made it pretty obvious that Chinese social media is actually pretty wholesome compared to places like Twitter, FB, etc.

[–] SugandeseDelegation@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think even libs can't say you're being unreasonable if you give them these reasons why you shouldn't care about the alleged spying, at least not without slowly painting themselves in a corner as sinophobes. I genuinely can't imagine what unhinged reply they'd come up with if you tell them "Western companies also spy on you, and you live in the West, not in China". But I'm sure they'll find something

[–] Malkhodr@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

"It's dangerous for a states security if a foreign authoritarian government has information on ways to influence your citizens."

Is the reply I've gotten before. Honestly not the worse opinion... if you applied it to the US. Otherwise it's eye-roll inducing.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago

What they're really worried about is that the NSA won't be able to spy on him.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hopefully this shifts the perspective people have of modern Japan onto China

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

BUT AT WHAT COST?!?!