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Yes, this means a ton of carbon ends up in the atmosphere instead of in the trees. The right move would be thinning and prescribed burns, but this administration isn't going to do that.

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[–] BarelyAdulting@midwest.social 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We get 30% of our lumber from Canada. This is the inevitable consequence of shutting our borders to trade via tariffs - if these policies stick around for four years, sure, we may bring some manufacturing home at great immediate cost, but we'll also be bringing home the environmental burdens of manufacturing (the negative externalities) which we've been pushing onto other countries and ignoring for decades. In the meantime, other countries have started to learn how to handle those externalities, like China's big push for solar power. In America, we've got an idiot who is rolling back worker safety, health and environmental protections, the list goes on. So even if these tariffs worked, we're going to be living in a less healthy place, all in the name of jobs...

[–] grue@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This has nothing to do with the tariffs; even if those weren't happening Trump would be selling the trees off to his cronies anyway. It's a blatantly corrupt kleptocracy.

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[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then i guess it's time to start living up to the old namesake.

The trees can't be harmed if the lorax is armed. You touch his trees, he aims for your knees.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump has two legs. Just sayin

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Black Knight always triumphs!

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[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One can make useful items out of wood.

Guillotines, for example…

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)
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[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

guess we protesting to stop logging next

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Can you just find the article about this story that's not published in a corporate paper instead of posting this link?

It doesn't take long to find a better source

[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why people link to a paywalled article in the first place boggles my mind. You're not sharing information, you're just advertising the paper for free.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Save a forest, shoot a ...

Wait, where's the line where what I say gets me banned again?

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 12 points 2 days ago

In my experience, that line was mostly left over on Reddit.

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[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just wondering, what makes a forest a national forest and does this include trees in national parks or are they protected?

[–] Butterpaderp@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Safe to say, nothing's protected from this admin

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is there a list of which forests opened for logging?

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Probably all of them, start with half then charge more to open the second half.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can't find one, I'd like to see a map but I don't expect there is one.

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