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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

The second someone starts showing American war crimes they are a security risk. But Americans somehow still believe in free speech.

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the real reason for the ban.

"National security" just translates to "public opinion of the war(s)"

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And yet they were trying to ban it years before any of that happened...

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The last time the US was not involved in a war was 1998

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Kosovo and Iraq want a word, the US has literally never not been involved in a war in some capacity.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Everyone moving to The Little Red Book (or "RedNote") is creating some very funny interactions, lmao. Super cute honestly

[–] CentauriBeau@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

What happened to us (Americans)? We used to look down on Soviet propaganda and book burning; congratulating ourselves on our free speech. Now we’re burning books and outlawing news sources that don’t abide by the official propaganda. It’s sickening.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

The US has always had propaganda and book burning, it's just really good at projection. Hell, even D&D was attacked for being "satanic."

[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

did you miss the red scare? it's always been this way

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

We used to look down on Soviet propaganda and book burning; congratulating ourselves on our free speech.

pssst

those were lies too

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Lol, classic American. Sees Americans doing bad things in America in a way that America has always done: "what are we, a bunch of Russians!"

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because our empire is collapsing

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You guys are actively collapsing it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Who and how?

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Mitt Romney might just be the only member of the GOP with at least a single honest bone in his body.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So that's who the democrats will run in 2028

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well we'll have an actual primary if there's an election so if he gets through a democratic primary, that's on democrat voters. I also don't think he wants to run.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

very funny to see the results of the last few dem primaries and still think that voters choose who the candidate will be

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Voters not seeing that they're getting played is its own problem. DNC can push whoever, up to voters to decide whether to follow or push back.

The RNC tried to push Jeb or Rubio in 2016, Republicans put in Trump instead.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago

The least evil fuck is still an evil fuck.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, its just nice when they're honest about it.

US republicans will be like: "8 men should own this country and everyone else can die in the gutter". US democrats will be like: "We need to reframe the conversation about the lived experiences of so many of our constituents, and reach solutions that include these realities [policies not different from those above]".

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are evil fucks too. But not evil enough that I’m going to give Mitt Romney any credit.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

They're evil enough. If complete support for yet another genocide isn't "evil enough" I wonder what might do it.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So let me get this straight....

The Tiktok ban, that was first proposed in Jan 2020, and was banned from government devices in Dec 2022, was getting first drafts for laws banned in Dec 2022, another law was proposed to block in nationwide in Jan 2023, was further restricted in March of 2023, and was signed into law to banned Tiktok nation wide on April 2023 (to be completely removed by Jan 2025) is solely being done to censor information about a conflict that started in Oct 2023...

Yeah, check outs. 👍

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If you make the point simpler it works. "We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor" with this in mind it makes sense to say "its because of isreal-palastine" because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.

If you really believe that when they say they are getting rid of tiktok it is for national security you're a fucking rube, they have been taking away our freedoms for decades under the guise of national security, they sure as fuck dont consider it any sort of threat that any of the American social media platform would sell your data do a hostile foreign power. They want it gone because A) they cannot control what spreads on it, and B) their rich owners arnt profiting from it.

If you want to argue that any social media platform dying is a good thing, then i can at least sympathize (thought id argue this isnt a step in the direction of getting rid of social media in general), but if you think banning tiktok is about anything more than corruption you're a rube.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you make the point simpler it works. "We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor"

I won't argue against that.

with this in mind it makes sense to say "its because of isreal-palastine" because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.

This part is illogical though. Claiming that due to a future event, we went back in time to block/and-or control a message makes no sense. This was my entire point. They are blocking it for many reasons and have been for years, but claiming the whole reason they spent years attempting to block it because of a single event that happened years later makes no sense.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

single event that happened years later makes no sense.

The genocide of palestinians didn't begin in 2022. And the above commenter is correct, the US wants full control of its social media in order to spread pro-US foreign policy views, and tiktok is a threat to that.