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[–] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget the Falklands.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never heard of them. Maybe you mean the Malvinas.

[–] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

Quite right you are. So I did.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

the french talking about russia and ukraine

[–] wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Ah yes. Whataboutism. Suppose a robber acts in defense of a person about to be robbed. That may or may not make them a hypocrite, but it certainly doesn't make them wrong.

Or would you say it would somehow be more right for the robber to stand back and allow the robbery "because they're in no position to point fingers"?

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

One might worry about the motivations behind a murderer who murders another murderer and what that might mean for the original victim.

[–] xxd@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If anything it would be more a 'tu quoque' fallacy than whataboutism, because the latter tries to shift the attention to an unrelated topic, whereas here it is occupying land both times.

It certainly weakens the criticism, because the robber in your example might do the right thing, but if they really opposed robbing, surely they wouldn't do it themselves? As you said, it makes them a hypocrite, and makes you question their motive for measuring two cases with a different yardstick.

[–] wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee -4 points 1 week ago

Sure, but to my mind the question is: How does robber #2 pointing out that robber #1 is himself a robber excuse the actions of robber #2?

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