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One of the men goes for her phone. The other grabs at her hands. Ozturk screams. Shock and fear ripple through her voice. Two masked women join them, tugging at her backpack, peeling the straps from her shoulders. “I’m going somewhere, I need to call someone,” she pleads. “We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says in response.

They surround her. Then, one by one, they pull their neck gaiters up to cover their faces. “You don’t look like police,” a voice off screen says. “Why are you hiding your faces?” The questions continue, but the figures don’t respond. Instead, they cuff Ozturk, cross the street, and put her in an unmarked SUV. She is gone.

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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Our inner child will refuse to believe this, but history has shown us that fascists cannot be stopped peacefully.

Concealed carry might be our only real defense in the future

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe but One gun vs. 10 isn't gonna do much. Needs to be combined with community organization. Get to know your neighbors and look out for and protect those likely to be targeted next. Organize your workplace and protect your coworkers from ICE. If you don't speak up there will be no one to speak up for you when it's your turn.

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[–] green@feddit.nl 53 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Can we stop talking about "we should, we should"? Who is actually doing?

The time for talk was over November 4th, but it is beyond over now - arm yourself, period.

Where are the community resources for community building and fighting against ICE tactics - this is what the internet is for? Who is running the underground railroad? Why are every single one of us not educated on TOR and VPNs? Who are we primarying? What are the plans for removing propaganda from our real life communities?

There are no accessible answers to these questions - this is unacceptable, and we get this in order now. No one is coming to save us, we must do it ourselves. We have a 2 month window between now and when the most in-person activity will happen (summer).

P.S. Everyone screams at the gun owners and politicians about why they won't do anything. But why would they? They'll basically throw their lives away for nothing - especially when the people they claim to fight for are so fucking spineless.

If this woman can have her First Amendment RIGHT stripped and arrested in the street by plain clothes, and every single person in this country isn't rioting, guns and laws will not fix it.

P.S P.S If you are not from America and are in a relatively free country, one of the best things you can do is host the resources for fighting the Nazis. American companies, individuals, and organization are automatically compromised.

If are an American, create an onion service or host using an EU VPS and domain registar.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The government revoked Tufts doctoral student Rumeysa Ozturk's visa due to her pro-Palestinian activism, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who added the State Department may have revoked more than 300 student visas since the beginning of the second Trump administration.

"It might be more than 300 at this point. We do it every day. Every time I find one of these lunatics, I take away their visa," Rubio said during a press conference in Guyana on Thursday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/tufts-students-visa-revoked-due-activism-rubio/story?id=120226954

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 24 points 6 days ago

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 93 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“We’re the police relax” says the gestapo mother fucker disappearing people

[–] T156@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Things that someone who isn't the police would also say.

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[–] Joeyfingis@lemmy.world 80 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Remember the outrage when stuff like that happens in China?
Ever since living there a few years back, I keep saying how your two countries are so fucking similar, and it getting truer every day.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I lived there 10 years ago and it felt entirely different at the time. Chinese people were afraid to discuss certain topics in public, which was not the case in the USA at that time, but yes, times have changed and it is becoming increasingly similar in the US.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Chinese people were afraid to discuss certain topics in public, which was not the case in the USA at that time,

Try talking about unionizing at work and see how people react. Americans are terrified of discussing critical issues in places where it matters the most.

Companies having the ability to destroy your life for having the wrong opinion is just as bad as a state doing it.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 76 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is horrifying. This person broke no laws. If Trump is doing this to valid green card holders for exercising their first amendment rights, then we are one degree of separation from Trump doing this to U.S. citizens who criticize him.

It's only going to continue getting worse. Make an exit plan if you haven't already.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Starts with green card holders, then it progresses to those who weren't born in the US via denaturalization (as the administration has already started with), and finally it gets to all citizens. The people cheering for this are the ones who don't realize that the leopards will eat their faces sooner or later as well.

I don't know if it's related to the culture of American exceptionalism, that people are so used to the idea that they're special and that they won't be affected, that they never even stop to consider the possibility.

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[–] InstructionsNotClear@midwest.social 77 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Did we just watch a woman get abducted by sex traffickers?

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 29 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Assuming they're federal agents, then yes.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If unmarked, unidentified people start grabbing at random students, you have the responsibility to intervene. Police must wear clothing that identifies them, show a badge, or be accompanied by uniformed officers..... Otherwise, just shouting I'm the police isn't good enough for me.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Most Americans: Yeah but it didn't happen to me.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 54 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is inexcusable. Permanent residents of this country are historically entitled to the first amendment.

If they can change that precedent, then there's little standing in the way of anyone else.

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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 67 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's terrifying. That is absolutely terrifying. Unidentified, masked people in all black kidnapping people right off the street in unmarked cars.

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[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 65 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is a fantastic way to get cops shot and killed in the street. Please, PLEASE try this shit in Oakland or Los Angeles I am begging you.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Exactly, if I’m getting approached and they aren’t identifying themselves…. Guns are coming out. Fuck that game

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There really is a strong argument for minorities to carry.

Worst case scenario you just end up with stricter gun laws.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Historically speaking, the only way gun restrictions get passed in the US is due to skin color...

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[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 56 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We've become so complacent. A unified community would have intervened, violently if necessary. I would love nothing more than to see a crowd of folks popping out of houses and cars and surrounding these terrorists at gunpoint.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This happened in my country in 2021: https://youtu.be/ZZcoXdZeabA No guns involved, just a load of people prepared to stand around all day blocking the vans.

Get yourselves organised.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile Rubio is proudly bragging about revoking student visas entirely for pro-Palestinian speech. Marco Rubio is not the voice of reason in the white house, he's an enemy of the Constitution.

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago

This is the very definition of terrorism:
"Terrorism is the calculated use of violence to create fear and achieve political goals, often targeting civilians...."

[–] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

For many years I was against punching nazis. It was time for debate. I am still against punching peaceful protestors.

But secret police deserve more than a punch.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Wtf I thought it was news overblown at first I can't fucking believe the US government is doing this in middle of the day, can't they Atleast try to disguise it as criminal activity?

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 18 points 6 days ago

The exact thing they used to say China did!

[–] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (4 children)
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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

So they're revoking student visas without telling the students?

[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Makes me wonder if it would be a good idea to take down my "Hate has no home here" flag, that is prominently displayed in my yard.

We live in a very diverse neighborhood, and I'm happy to have this flag up. But I don't need any billy-jackoffs coming around causing a fuss, or worse.

[–] choco_crispies@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

It is possibly all the more reason to keep it up. I don't want to be a target either, but these people need to know when they have entered hostile territory.

[–] wuzzlewoggle@feddit.org 8 points 6 days ago

Do not take it down! They are acting exactly according to plan and the next step is to have people like you be afraid to openly display your ideals. Taking down that flag would be a win for them.

I understand that it is frightening and the urge to fly under the radar is growing, but now isn't the time to take those flags down. It's the time to fly them high.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So... What happens if there aren't cameras where the political abduction occurs? The government can just wait a few weeks then sell them to El Salvador and let their friends and family believe they are missing?

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