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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

the US-Canadian border has been one of, if not the, most peaceful borders in the entire world.

the most peaceful and mutually beneficial border on Earth.

Tell me your views are extremely America-centric without telling me.

The only way you can have those views is if you know nothing about the EU at all.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

The US and Canada haven't fought since 1812. Which European border of a major super power has a longer history of being close allies?

The UK and Scotland shouldn't count because Scotland isn't a sovereign country, they are a state of the UK that has lied about retaining their sovereignty for 500 years (which is why they have to beg England for permission to even hold an independece referendum)

Spain and France shouldn't count because Spain worked with the Nazis in ww2 and wouldn't help France.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

Switzerland? Apart from a bit of aerial bombing during WWII it's been a pretty peaceful border since that time Napoleon invaded.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The US and Canada haven’t fought since 1812. Which European border of a major super power has a longer history of being close allies?

What’s the definition of “being a close ally”? You’re using the date of Canada and USA last conflict, but for Spain and France you’re using political alignment.

I think Portugal and Spain also make a good candidate if we’re looking back only until the early 1800’s. The border itself had a few changes but they were peaceful IIRC, the last conflict was 1801?

On a separate note, the quote says has been the most peaceful and beneficial, so it’s not so much as a matter of peaceful for the longest time. Even if EU borders weren’t peaceful way back, quite a few of them are so peaceful nowadays that they barely register as existing. In terms of most beneficial, I’m not sure how to analyze that.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Quite a surprising one here: I think the Norwegian/russian border can actually match that. I believe Norway is the only country neighbouring russia that has never been invaded by them (sans WWII, where they invaded Nazi-occupied Norway and willingly left after the Axis was defeated).

I also think the Norwegian/Danish border has been conflict-free for some hundred years (to be fair, we were in a union for ≈450 years ending in 1814). We've had some skirmishes with the Swedes throughout the years, but I believe the last one was in 1814.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

Norway and Denmark don't have a land border. Thus including alliances in general the Anglo-Portuguese one dates back to 1373, with only 60 years interruption when Portugal was in dynastic union with Spain which in modern terms could be called an occupation.

...and this isn't just a technicality with both nations being big on seafaring you can consider the water between them a highway, French cannons nonwithstanding.

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[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 18 points 23 hours ago

"In the last 100 years"... European borders were not peaceful for that long

[–] faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

To be fair, historically speaking, Europe's borders have been all but peaceful.

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[–] muh_shroom@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Lmao, I’ve got a bullet for every magat fuck that crosses the border. Last thing they’ll hear is a tree speaking French

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

it would be great to remind americans how many sniping records get broken by canadians. start making that gear domestically, if you don't already. maybe start taking out tires on trucks with american plates. just so they know how unwelcome they are, and if they want to take something across the border, it had better be a canadian getting paid to do it.

[–] AJ1@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

I'm putting a new scope on my crossbow as we speak. Reusable ammo is an underrated perk.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I'll be on this side of the border lighting off freedom displays of fire works to signal every raiding party heading over.

[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago

im with you 👊

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