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I'm historically a green voter -- but honestly, I get "the defectors" point on this one, and am a bit surprised that there's so much drama over it.

Like the news stories about her saying there were no child bodies at one site -- people comment how what she's saying is disrespectful to survivors of the residential system, but they aren't saying she's factually incorrect. The articles highlight that even the first nation "revised" their wording over the years from "remains of 215 children", to "potential burial sites", to eventually just "anomalies".

So she's correct in her statement on that front, no?

This sort of situation alienates moderates. The extreme backlash against anyone who asks questions in this area makes it impossible for moderates to engage with it without being labelled in some way. When moderates are unable to even ask questions/discuss the topic openly, well, they tend to become less moderate. So her going from questioning / highlighting objective truths, to experiencing a huge backlash, to doing a stupid mocking voice on a podcast, isn't really that surprising a trajectory. The federal government making it a "hate crime" to question this stuff, is just amazing to me -- and it'd be a huge point against the Liberals staying in power, if the alternatives weren't so gross.

First the moderate BC United collapses and now the right-wing BC Conservatives splinters off into a extremist far-right party in the making. Do we really want to keep allowing the first-past-the-post system to continue to hide extremists behind the 2 big tent parties when we can instead have more transparency in our democracy.

Join !fairvote@lemmy.ca so we can end this nonsense!

Jordan Kealy of Peace River North and Tara Armstrong of Kelowna-Lake Country-Coldstream, both made the announcement on Facebook Friday evening.

The party has been a mess. Perhaps “not NDP” isn’t enough of a foundation for a party. Maybe we need some principled people to step out of it.

In his post, Kealy indicates interest in forming a "new party that respects Conservative values," but that he plans to represent his region "with or without a party."

Uh oh. I never like where the conversation is going when the word “values” starts getting slung around.

The NDP has sought to exploit that strategy through some of its motions, including one calling on MLAs to condemn U.S. President Donald Trump's tariff threats.

Five Conservative MLAs voted against the motion, including Brodie, Armstrong and Kealy.

Ohhhhh. Now I get it. The BC Conservatives aren’t conservative enough for this lot. And I naively thought they were leaning towards being less shitty.

Update now it's up to 3 independents in the legislature.