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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why can't we go back to small phones?

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think this is correlation, not causation, as this was also when touch screens started being made

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it's also when mobile media in general was available on your phone. tv, movies, YouTube, games, everything. not everything is about porn.

not everything is about porn.

You speak only for yourself.

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I definitely was looking at porn on my 240x320 Nokia screen.

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[–] Habarug@lemm.ee 103 points 1 day ago (30 children)

Well, I can't speak for everyone else, but I can't go back because they don't sell any small phones.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I picked the Pixel 8 because:

  1. it runs GrapheneOS
  2. It was a little smaller than the Pixel 8 Pro

If there was a smaller version available, I would've gotten that instead.

[–] Krelis_@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I picked the Sony Xperia 1v because:

  • 71mm width (similar to pixel 8)
  • Flagship specs (*for 2023 - Snapdragon 8 gen2 / 12gb)
  • not Google Samsung or Apple
  • little to no bloatware
  • Decent cameras
  • SD card expandable
  • Headphone jack 3.5mm (though I haven't used it yet)
  • No glass back (and solid build quality allround)
  • LineageOS support (for when vendor support runs out)
  • I got a good refurb deal in 2024

I was considering a Zenphone 10 or Xperia 5 v - mainly for size and brand reasons as above - when i found this for £650

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I picked the 5ii for similar reasons at the time.

The problem is it only gets 2 years of support, so I haven't gotten an update in years. Sony is living in 2010.

The fingerprint reader slowly stopped working 6 months ago via a prolific software bug that is all over forums for xperias that will never be fixed.

The battery (even ONLY charging it to 80% using battery care) is horrific after a few years, mediocre when I got it and the standby time is shit. It loses 1.5-2% battery per hour not being used at all now. I get maybe 4h SOT browsing (much less with video).

The default camera app is crap and not even worth using...

I want to try lineageOS when I get the time to see if it fixes the battery and fingerprint reader, but here in Belgium we really need access to our bank apps because almost everything is done through there.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

When are we finally going to get curved phones on some kind of bracer? They wear them in every futuristic movie, we finally have curved screens, and no one’s made one for wearing on your forearm yet.

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[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

people spend a third of their lives on those things. And while cumbersome, a big screen simply is better for media consumption

only way I see smaller phones make a comeback is if we change our habits or if a new technology comes along

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I would rather spend this time on a device with a 15' screen and a comfortable keyboard. A phone is just that - a secondary device. That needs to be comfortable to hold and type on with one hand while the other holds onto the subway railing.

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[–] yarn@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes please. I really dislike iOS, but I use the iPhone 13 Mini for work and it's the perfect form factor. I desperately want an Android phone that's the same size, but I'm rocking a Flip which is the best I can do for small form factor right now.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The iPhone 13 mini was the perfect size and if Apple would have used that as a base for their new SE instead of the shitty 16e, I would have bought it in a heartbeat. Just give me a thicc 13 mini with a good battery, camera and a new processor.

[–] yarn@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Same, and I've never used an iOS device as a daily driver outside to work. I would literally dump my whole investment in the Android ecosystem over favourable form factor, especially now that Apple is on board with USBC.

I'd buy another 13 Mini, but I'm worried about how long it'll be before planned obsolescence takes over.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 35 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Why can't we have both? I want a bigger phone. Bigger than what I have now, and many people would consider this to be a fairly large phone.

But I don't want to stop people who want smaller phones from having those, too.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People don't buy them for the price they'll buy bigger phones. That's it. That's the whole story.

They have to make the phone cost $300 less to sell in meaningful numbers. Why do that when they could just not make them at all and sell fewer models at higher prices?

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Consumers just aren’t that interested in a product that’s visibly cheaper and worse than what everyone else is carrying. And that is what a smaller phone signals.

Phones are a status purchase; they all do basically the same things, but most people gravitate towards higher end phones because they offer all the fancy features. Flagship phones are all large, so that’s what you see in the marketing. Just like you’ll never see a car company put its cheapest base model on a car catalog cover.

A smaller phone tends to cut corners; it’s not just smaller, but also functionally worse. While the price might be appealing, the potential customer also knows that using said phone will mean a worse experience, and might even get them ridiculed because they got ‘the cheap one’.

So we can absolutely go back to small phones - we just don’t want to. Smaller, cheaper, worse products just don’t appeal to a status-conscious buyer. If phone manufacturers offered the same specs at different sizes, that might change. But any savvy tech buyer knows a smaller phone is worse than the bigger one.

Back in the pre-smartphone days, size was a thing companies could compete on since customers wanted small, light, distinctive designs in premium materials. Like the Motorola Razr V3. These days, that just doesn’t work.

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