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[–] uxellodunum@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 hours ago
[–] WarlockoftheWoods@lemy.lol 6 points 8 hours ago
[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 8 points 14 hours ago

For some reason I'm feeling so Amish... Seems like they were so right with technology risks :-)

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 15 points 20 hours ago
[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no 'lawful access' without a warrant or my permission. there aren't laws saying padlocks need to support a government master key, and encryption is just a digital lock.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

With a pad lock they do have a key though. Bolt cutters.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 14 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Bolt cutters are not a key, they are a method of bypassing the lock. they still need a warrant to do that, which is the point.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

they still need a warrant to do that

Lol...

In fascism, if you have the biggest gun, you do what you want. And Trump has the biggest "gun"

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm talking about legally, and as much as I don't like trump we are not in a fascist country (yet).

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago

What do you think the line is? When will it cross over and become acceptable to call it "fascism"? Because we've embodied Eco's 14 features of Ur-Fascism for like 20 years. We now have a de facto dictator who is using that framework to do explicitly fascist things... Where is the line?

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

The laws don't exist though because they're so easily circumvented. If you AES256 encrypt something today, there's an extremely lonely chance they can't crack it. For years.

With a padlock they can just pull out the cutters and they're done.

I'm just referring to your point on why there are no laws against padlocks in this context.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

fair enough, padlock was the wrong type of lock for the analogy. how about a vault door? sure that may not be as common, but you don't have to support a government master key for those either.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Same thing goes for vaults, or all physical locks. It may take a little longer than a padlock but nothing comparable to the amount of time it would take to brute force good encryption. We’re talking maybe a couple of hours or days for a vault vs. millions of years.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 2 points 6 hours ago

so? does the quality of my lock change whether or not I should be allowed to have it?

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago

It's not my responsibility to make the FBI's job (or any cop's job) easier.

Also, folks should be using 3rd party open-source encryption, like VeraCrypt and a password manager that encrypts the database, like Keepass. Don't ever expect governments and corporations to respect your privacy.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

"So don't make us torture you for encryption keys got it?"

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

Thanks for your interest, but I'll have to pass.

[–] Steve@communick.news 49 points 1 day ago

So get a warrant.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

any 'lawful' access that's baked-in will also be used and exploited 'unlawfully'.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And they don't give a shit 100%

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 22 hours ago

It's the entire fucking point.

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fbi want direct access to encrypted data while simultaneously also all data to be encrypted in order to be protected from china?

do explain how this is all going to work because it's extremely confusing.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

The explanation is that they will just use this shit to target whomever they please regardless of reason. This is how fascism works.

It is meant to be confusing. Stop trying to rationalize it, you're wasting energy.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

I warn FBI. Fuck you.