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Tech billionaire Elon Musk agreed on March 2 with a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, for the U.S. to exit NATO and the U.N.

"I agree," he wrote in response to a post from a right-wing political commentator saying "it's time" for the U.S. to leave NATO and the U.N.

The news comes after several Republican lawmakers submitted a bill on the U.S. exit from the U.N., claiming that the organization does not align with the Trump administration's "America First" agenda.

The U.S. was among several countries, including Russia, Belarus, Israel, and Hungary, that voted against a U.N. resolution at the end of February condemning Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Both NATO and the U.N. were founded by the U.S. and other victors of World War II to promote diplomacy and cooperation between nations as well as to prevent another global war.

Musk, an unelected official, currently heads the so-called U.S. Department of Government Efficiency, which has cut significant amounts of government spending, including life-saving foreign aid.

U.S. President Donald Trump has repeatedly criticized fellow NATO countries for their perceived lack of contributions to the military alliance and has called for a spending target of 5% of GDP for all members.

Kyiv sees NATO membership as a crucial safeguard against future Russian aggression, but Trump said in February that Ukraine "can forget" about joining the alliance, suggesting its bid was a trigger for the war—an argument echoed by Russian state propaganda.

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If the American people had any sense they would cut the heads off their new kings.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

The US intentionally leaving the organizations they have domination over as a means to exert soft power globally would certainly be good for weakening the US Empire. This seems like a case where the architects of Empire failed to raise successors and as such the ones with the reigns are now "true believers" in the architects' web of lies.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Perfect, I'd rather they step away and let us remake it into a n EU group.

Leaving the US inside the NATO still gives them veto rights.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 54 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If the US leaves the United Nations, does that mean they lose their security council veto power even if they somehow rejoin later?

Seems like something the other former global superpower, Russia, would be very happy to see happen.

I fail to see how this advances America's interests whatsoever. Republicans are huffing glue again.

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 18 points 10 hours ago

That's a similar case to UK leaving the EU. They had a lot of provisions just for them - tax exempts etc. If UK decides to rejoin they will have to renegotiate the terms and EU will not want to grant them the same relief as they had in the past.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Nato is the only reason we European country bought those ultra expensive F35 paying billions to purchase and operate them.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder what's going to happen to the new Gernan rifles of the US military.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

They’ll get expensive.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 2 points 8 hours ago

(talking about governors) "I prefer the bad ones over the dumb ones, because the bad sometimes rest" cit.

[–] himmyguap@lemmy.world 36 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

This is not going to end well for Elon Musk.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

Who gives a shit about him. This is not going to end well for everyone.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago

I sincerely hope not.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 27 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

FYI: even North Korea is a member of the UN!

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Even the vatican! Though be it as only an observer state

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If you include that then Palestine as well

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Palestinians have a legitimate claim to the land they live on. Of course it comes as no surprise that Israel did not support condemning Russias invasion of Ukraine.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 29 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Leaving NATO would cost the US over $100 billion in arms sales annually, so they won't do it. But to have and eat their cake they just don't need to honour article 5

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Idk, Trump already tried it at the end of his last term. These people don't have the USA's best interests in mind.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 16 hours ago

To be perfectly honest they should probably kick the US out of it

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I publicly support the unaliving of musk

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

But not into the sun. It takes more energy to launch something into the sun Vs just into space.

[–] porkloin@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Can we try to land him in his stupid fucking orbiting car or whatever

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Send him to Mars with a camera and he can vlog his adventure I am sure the reality shows revenue could offset some costs.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 80 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

If the US leaves the UN it permanently gives up its seat in the Security Council and its veto.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 33 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Russia magically inherited the USSR's security council seat even though they are not the USSR. When the US collapses, which part gets their old seat? (I vote we give it to Canada personally)

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

It was a good idea to give Russia a seat to balance power. There probably should not be any vetos.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Russia was always Russia. It was the seat of the USSR so it just stayed with Russia. If the US withdraws it gives up its seat. Canada would happily accept a permanent seat on the Security Council with veto.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, Russia took over the debts of the USSR as well, didn't they?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

There are some with veto power who would oppose it transferring to anyone

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[–] Srh@lemmy.world 138 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Leaving the UN would mean giving up US veto power. This would be one of the stupidest decisions of all time. No wonder Elon wants to do it.

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[–] klemptor@startrek.website 60 points 1 day ago (4 children)

FUCK THIS GUY SO HARD. I swear to god this lunatic needs to be stopped.

[–] Daelsky@lemmy.ca 21 points 19 hours ago

This lunatic is a danger for the world. He is an unelected unaccountable person with the power of the presidency. It’s terrifying.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 17 points 20 hours ago

Preferably a bullet

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 194 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Will no one rid us of this treasonous billionaire?

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (17 children)

There is a reason he travels with the little meat shield.

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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Which treasonous billionaire? There's dozens to choose from.

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[–] Xenobiotic@sh.itjust.works 104 points 1 day ago
[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I publicly support ejecting this unelected scumbag from our country.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 77 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Both NATO and the U.N. were founded by the U.S. and other victors of World War II to promote diplomacy and cooperation between nations as well as to prevent another global war.

claiming that the organization does not align with the Trump administration

Checks out.

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