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The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you didn't see that writing on the wall you need your eyes testing.

No Chrome browser will be maintained to keep using Manifest V2.

Use Firefox.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 232 points 3 days ago (5 children)
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's slowly turning, too. Start looking for something else.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 48 points 3 days ago (5 children)

We need a truly FOSS browser that developed and maintained by the community. Librewolf isn't it unless it fully forks away from Mozilla. We need a new engine and we just don't have one yet.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Ladybird Browser is coming, but could be a couple years still

https://ladybird.org/

From scratch, BSD licensed, non-profit managed

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[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 250 points 4 days ago (15 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 135 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 51 points 4 days ago (13 children)
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[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 45 points 3 days ago (9 children)
[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The browser you use to download Firefox

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The browser you use to download Firefox

Huh? Just type winget install Mozilla.Firefox into PowerShell / cmd.

[–] JLock17@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

The thing you use once to download firefox, and then never again.

[–] foobarbaz@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They get you really close but stop just before finishing.

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[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Microsoft is a spineless removed.

[–] shani66@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago

Removed? What could the comment possibly say in this context that would warrant removal?

God, .ml manages to be the worst parts of both shitlib civility bullshit and tankie bullshit.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Why is it that when I see removed, it's always from lemmy.ml, is that the only instance with the filter enabled

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Nooo, it is browser on my workplace! How should I work efficiently without uBlock!?!?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Tell IT and your boss how your productivity tanked since edge disabled uBlock.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

Click on all the ads and install all the malware. That will teach them.

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The new manifest v3 version is actually not that bad, though not nearly as good as normal ublock.

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[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Amarok? That was my favorite media player way back when

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[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 68 points 4 days ago (27 children)
[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 89 points 4 days ago (14 children)

90% of people and corporations are either using Edge or Chrome and since there's essentially no difference between the two they are equally bad. We're back to a browser mono-culture, just like in the bad old days of Internet Explorer.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Right, you don't need extensions, because you don't need customization, because what you need is what we the corp say you need.

I think Web as it exists is a failed branch of evolution.

A networked (solved) hypertext (solved) document (solved) system - yes. A networked hypertext system with one or two unbelievably complex clients, where only enormous corps have enough resources to change something, - no. One can add steps - E2E encryption, dynamic services, scripts, all not requiring a monolithic piece of nonsense.

BTW, those hating Flash, I hope, do realize that its proper, paradigm-abiding replacement would be a FOSS plugin with similar goal, not what we have.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For flash I think you're describing Ruffle

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No, Ruffle is an alternative interpreter. I mean an alternative, FOSS, technology.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 27 points 3 days ago (16 children)

people use edge? it downloads itself onto your computer without permission.

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just in case you needed another reason not to use Edge.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

Chrome* or Chromium based browsers*

[–] DuskyRo@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (7 children)
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[–] ridethisbike@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Librewolf on desktop Mull on Android

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 29 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Mull is not maintained anymore. However there is a fork called IronFox.

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[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?

https://zen-browser.app/

Worth a look if you're a web power-user / developer sort of person

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[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Ok maybe off topic, why does a web browser have to be one of the most complicated software artifacts on earth? So expensive to write and maintain that only a few orgs with huge developer resources can do it?

What would it look like to start from scratch with a massively simplified standard for specifying UIs, based on all we've learned since html/css was invented? A standard that a few developers could implement in a few weeks using off the shelf libraries. Rather than reimplement every bizarre historical detail in html/css, have a new UI layout system that's simple and consistent, and perhaps more powerful.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Basically browsers are big because they are operating systems for web hosted applications with huge attack surfaces and lots of legacy compatibility requirements amassed over 3 decades.

A rewrite isn't the answer. Putting limits on browser functionality is. JavaScript was the turning point IMHO.

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