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[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 236 points 1 week ago (59 children)

Funny wojak faces but to clear up an apparent misconception here, Ukrainian weren't fighting for abstract concepts like "freedom" and Democracy", they were fighting to stop Russian soldiers from killing their families, raping their children, and burning their homes to the ground.

I hope this helps!

[–] johny@feddit.org 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ukrainians were/are still fighting to defend themselves from an illegal invasion. But America sees and has always seen Ukraine as a proxy to weaken a geo-strategic rival. NATO was not realistically on the table as long as the conflict in the Donbas was ongoing (it would have immediately triggered art.5) to keep promising NATO instead of working on a more realistic path to peace has probably caused the death of 100000s of Ukrainians. And just as with many other imperial proxies in history, the proxy is left to deal with the fallout while the empire retreats to the metropol and prepares for the next conflict.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (28 children)

If it was simple mob extortion it would be reasonable. Zelensky originally agreed when he thought the deal would be to pay for American protection.

But Trump wants the money AND wants Ukraine to surrender. Trump is a stupid mob boss who doesn't understand why "Pay me and I'll let the rival gang burn your business." isn't going to be accepted.

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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 week ago (23 children)

history truly is a flat circle

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This image is almost 3 years old already lmao.

If any libs want to learn how tankies see the future you might want to read about the past for once. Pop history doesn't count.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 week ago (15 children)

That's the kicker, Leftists are correct far more often than liberals yet libs never put 2 and 2 together.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

US is fatal even for itself

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

US is in a state of slow implosion. Rest of the world needs to look at collaborating while excluding the US.

My guess is China will fill the void left by the disintegration of USAID in order to boost its global standing.

I strongly encourage all nations to begin violating US intellectual property rights. Nations like India already do so with pharmaceuticals.

Eventually other nations will need to take on the mantle of tech and pharmaceutical research and development and we don't want to live in a world where all this progress is lost.

Americans have chosen to nuke their own democracy and we need to minimize the damage done to the rest of the world as much as possible.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who would’ve thought the government that installed a far right government in a coup wouldn’t have the best intentions?!

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (34 children)

See, I can't tell if you're talking about America, Russia, or Ukraine.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

With rare exception (Israel) America can seem downright schizo from administration to administration.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This was always Ukraine's fate.

The OG coup happened under the Obama admin, the far-right were forced into government under Trump pt I, Ukraine was forced to sell off state assets and take billions in loans by the Biden admin, and now the US is preparing to pick the bones clean over the next decades.

It's nice that yall are recognizing that the US isn't there to help the Ukrainian people now, but we're all gonna repeat this next war.

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