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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 108 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's kinda a weird take? Like if I'm in a discussion about some scary things AfD are doing and a left-of-center German joins the conversation, I'd like to think I'd have the ability to...you know...hear what they have to say about things.

There are a bunch of Americans who asked for this; there are a bunch who stood by and did nothing to stop it; and there are a bunch who tried to stop it, did not, and are devastated.

I guess at the end of the day it's just a meme.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I guess how many of the do nothing's are now the ones saying I didn't vote for this. Umm yes you did.

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[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Here's my (admittedly hotheaded) Canadian perspective.

Germans, as a baseline, don't dominate online culture. Everywhere I look on the internet, I'm reading about Americans. It never stops. I have to constantly filter through American politics, drama, and celebrity news. It feels like we are finally moving away from American-centricity and having discussions about how living at the whims of this superpower is negatively affecting us.

Americans butt in on this and give their takes on it and man... I just don't care. Their country collectively chose this. My career and ability to provide for my family is seriously at risk because 90 MILLION of them couldn't be bothered to vote.

For this one, single discussion, just this one time, please, butt out.

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[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 88 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Iβ€˜m german and I watch in real time how a fascist Gouvernement is taking over the US.

Sometimes I feel like I take crazy pills, when a friend of mine assures me that Donald Trump is just a business man who wants to help the country. Or when a good friend of mine who I considered sane and intelligent until this moment sends me a link to a J. D. Vance interview and tells me what a very smart guy this is.

It’s infuriating. And lonely. I think every American against this should be allowed to speak openly and participate. We have to work together, or we have lost already.

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lonely is right.

The amount of respect that I've lost for my family over the past decade is immeasurable. They taught me right from wrong, and now they're surprised that I think differently from them. My brother is the only one I'm still close with; everyone else I've been keeping at increasingly large distances. I used to call Mom almost every day, and now I'm lucky if I call her once a week.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

All of my extended family are American. I've lost all but my great-grandparents to Trump and MAGA, and that's only because they're old enough to remember World War 2. Everyone else has lost their fucking minds and either think Trump is the greatest thing to ever happen to the US, or don't recognize just how bad things are going to get.

My mom told my grandparents that if they voted for Trump or if Trump won, we would never visit them in the States again until it gets its shit together because frankly the US is not a safe place to be right now. Guess who they chose over their own family?

Needless to say, I've gone no-contact with most of them. I am ashamed to be related to most of them. Thank fuck my mom didn't turn out the same way and moved to Canada 25ish years ago. My dad, on the other hand, is definitely drinking the Conservative Kool-Aid and it's hard to talk to him without politics being brought up.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 71 points 1 week ago (4 children)

God I'm so tired of this shit. I swear the intent is to downplay the danger that many of America's marginalized communities are in. That way trans people don't have anywhere to run. People with disabilities have no where to run. POC have no where to run. Most, if not all, of y'all have laws specifically forbidding refugees from the US. This is because the US has traditionally been considered a safe harbor for refugees. However, the US government is now sending immigrants to Guantanamo and threatening to do the same with trans people, people with disabilities, and so on.

We need your help. Not by stepping in and correcting course, but by giving us safe refuge. Most of us are already in very serious danger and sweating bullets while we watch the gun slowly move to point at us, but we have nowhere to run because no one accepts US refugees.

I'm trans. I'm living in Texas. I voted for Harris. I'm watching the gun as it attempts to murder my friends (I have some birthright citizenship friends) as it slowly drifts ever closer. We need your help, because right now I'm expecting that our expiration dates are less than a year away. They gotta find something to do with us once they start running out of space in Guantanamo c::

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Fuck me for wanting in on a discussion about how my own country is going to shit, right? I guess I'll go jump off a bridge or something

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[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

As an American I think I'm going insane? The last 3 weeks have been some of the most anxious and stressed I've ever been.

Trump's first term was nothing like this, there's a feeling of apathy in the air among people and coworkers (I live in a very liberal city in the deep south). Folks around here just seem to be on edge at all times, whether you're pro or anti in a much more divisive way.

There's a strange feeling knowing there's a solid chance we won't make it out of this one. There have been plenty of times in the past where we've had doom and gloom (Trump v1, conservatives and Obama), etc. Nothing ever happens, but this time I'm fairly confident the country I was born into will be dead and gone given the shear destruction being waged against our institutions.

I'm protesting and will continue to do what is needed to ensure 47 isn't the final chapter.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm fairly confident the country I was born into will be dead and gone

I do feel bad for the american citizens suffering the consequences, but the US Empire falling is a net positive for the rest of the world. Ask people from Palestine, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia, who suffered the US hegemony

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, I appreciate the good Americans. Hopefully as many as possible can get out.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm in Alberta. The not-all-of-us thing is real.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Are you guys aware that the point is to show you, as a sign of camaraderie, that there are Americans who disagree with the current admin, rather than to try to get praise?

[–] Toasted@lemm.ee -1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Its really hard to have sympathy for any americans because even "the left" seems to have done everything possible to enable fascism by repeatedly throwing the working class under the bus in favour of corporations.

You all had your chance with Bernie but you kicked him to the curb for a creature grown in a lab by credit card corporations.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

I have a lot of sympathy. I feel awful for them. Unfortunately, it is the kind of sympathy I would feel for an enemy soldier that I think is maybe fighting against their will. I feel bad for them but there is no way I am putting my gun down while they are around. They are still the enemy and β€œthey” are still trying to kill me. We are not going to be friends.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (11 children)

You may be, but clearly more than half of you are not πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Have you checked the voter turnout? Because I didn't but it's traditionally low in the US for different reasons. And this doesn't take into account people not allowed to vote. I don't live in a utopia either but the US is especially undemocratic by design

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Weird that we have more solidarity with the EU than Mexico.

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[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago

We need all the help we can get. If some of the Americans are on my side, then I gladly accept their help. Hopefully they rise up before it's too late.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (9 children)

You do realize we’re going through a fascist coup right?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Time to prove that the second amendment really works then?

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago (17 children)

"What do you mean, I can't fix this by posting on social media? Stop oppressing me 😒😒😒"

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