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According to many comments, the US government DOES use SQL, and Musk is not understanding much what's going on.

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[–] commander@lemmings.world 48 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This retard thinks the government doesn't use SQL...

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

REAL GOVERNMENTS USE EXCEL SHEETS /j

Wasn't it the uk or something that messed up a vote due to excel's row limit?

[–] TroublesomeTalker@feddit.uk 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think it was something to do with COVID stats during the initial outbreak, but yes, yes it was the UK government and their bizarre love affair with stupid tech choices.

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[–] oo1@lemmings.world 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's what he does. Not understand things.

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[–] SilentKettle@lemmy.wtf 43 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Musk seems to think Musk is a tech genius, but really he was just born into money and used it to buy a bunch of companies. In fairness he was able to recognise which companies to buy, doesn't mean he knows anything about databases though.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

In fairness he was able to recognise which companies to buy

I think this is just survivorship bias. There are millions of wealthy individuals investing in companies every single day. Occasionally these gambles pay off and make people extremely wealthy.

Most of the time the people who succeed just spend their incredibe wealth and live a quiet happy life.

But there are others who crave attention. These individuals bully their way into prestigious positions and pretend that they're leading the company.

Elon is that kind of person. He started wealthy, bet his money on companies that succeeded. Then took the CEO role so he would get credit for the companys' successes.

If ever people dare stop paying attention to him he'll do something drastic to recapture the spotlight on.

He's the kind of person who will stand on stage and do a nazi salute just because he wants you to look at him.

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[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Sounds like he got confused looking at a view of a join.

SELECT holder_name, amount
FROM account JOIN transaction ON transaction.account_id=account.id;

-- WTF!! THERE'S DUPLICATES!!!
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 42 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Oh, I'm calling it now. This one is going to be used as an attack of trans people. Throw out the archaic and manual process of updating names in federal databases, and keep it simple by making the records immutable. Then hit them with a lovely

"You MUST use your REAL NAME (MAIDEN NAME) on government forms. If the name does not match, you will be denied."

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (7 children)

He did the exact same thing after taking over Twitter, talking about "poorly batched RPCs" in the timeline which makes zero sense because that's obviously not how HTTP works.

The sad thing is Elon regularly shows how much of a very judgmental, "I'm so smart" idiot* he is, but somehow I keep meeting people who think he's a genius. I guess the assumption that money=smart still holds true in the US, despite being disproven time and time again.

*Do we not have a single word for this concept? I come across this kind of person so frequently there really should be one.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (6 children)

All government data is processed using sed.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He definitely doesn't know what deduplicated means...

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Maybe Musk needs to learn about data normalization and natural keys.

I'm curious what the actual data looks like. I've spent quite a bit of time auditing large data systems.

I would expect these databases to be largely denormalized with very wide tables, I would expect them to favour natural keys like a SSNs, and built around per department use cases.

I would not expect them to be highly normalized because then when you need something from another department you need them to ensure consistency.

These systems probably have like 50 years of legacy code or more in them too.

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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago

A pretentious asshole billionaire is going to be preaching us about massive fraud. Because he totally earned all his wealth through back breaking honest hard work. Give me a fucking break.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 34 points 1 week ago

SSNs are literally just handed out to hospitals and social security offices in batches and given out in sequential order. They were specifically and intentionally designed to be a terrible system of ID numbers because people actually used to care about their privacy. There are countless people who've gone their whole lives using the wrong social security number and gotten their benefits just fine, because unlike everyone else in this dumpster fire of a country the social security office has never been stupid enough to rely on just a single number.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd bet that the government is probably the largest user of SQL. Unless there are really old systems that predate SQL. I'd imagine they have shitloads of COBOL for example.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (11 children)

"Our databases only store in RAM because I AM THE ELECTRICITY BATTERY MASTER"

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 28 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Maybe it’s all just one big .xlsm file?

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Of course. Everyone who's ever used a DB knows it's BS. As long as the data is structured - which it a) is because he was able to make assertions about it and b) fucking Excel files are enough - it CAN be imported and SQL'd on. Even Excel has built in support for fuck's sake, not to mention Python and PowerQuery.

The dude is a self-certified moron - he probably struggles with the concept of PKI, too.

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