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The President is empowered by a Congress controlled by a narrow majority. Rather than the individual they have chosen, I am pissed at the Republican party. And disappointed in the American people. The guy? He was always that way and would have continued to be so at a safe distance from the levers of power without his enablers.

It is the American and especially Republican relationship with Canada that is important in this situation. Those are what endure, that person is only momentarily significant. So, where we can choose the narrative, I think that's important to focus on.

Plus I suspect he likes the sound of his own name.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 178 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Guys, American here.

Hit Tesla, Meta, Amazon, hard as fuck. He raised tariffs 25%? Raise theirs 70%. Nail us with 25% on oil and electricity or shit, just shut it the fuck off.

Nip this fuck face in the bud now or he will just keep keep going.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 102 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The best suggestion I've seen, personally, is just to stop respecting American copyright law's bullshit.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago

Anything to hit the billionaire class and his supporters hard, I'm 100% on board.

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Yarrrrrrr. I couldn't agree more

I wish I could upvote this 1000x

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[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Isn't Canada in an agreement with the US that trades "no tariffs" for "no infringing on copyright"?

If the US is imposing tariffs, Canada should now be free to copy any American product.

Or was I lied to?

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

This also means Canada should be free of its water transit treaties. Let's divert water from flowing south over the border.

Kick Nestle completely out of the country, too -- no more cheap access to our water.

Start right now on new local beef processing faciliities.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nestle is European, but I'll always support a witch hunt for those greedy psychopathic fuckers

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the clarification on Nestle!

But yeah... agreed, f them it would be wonderful it they got caught in the splash damage.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed. Fight fire with fire. The only way to get the people to react is to make them uncomfortable. We tried reasoning, that failed. Let the leopards loose.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

More in this case, bullies and fascists only respond to force, that is all. There is no decorum, no societal norm, no mutually agreeable term that can be arrived at. Punch them in the face and keep doing it until the consequences are greater than the benefits of acting as such.

Power, through force is the ONLY thing they respect and understand.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

copyright

just make content ludicrously expensive and force people to pirate it, then don’t follow up on people doing so

that’ll make some very powerful interest groups that basically only exist in the US absolutely frothy with rage

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

There's a bit of a problem here though.

Say we put tariffs on services from Amazon for example. What should they apply to? Amazon the online store and Prime Video? Or should we also apply them on cloud services? Because a LOT of Canadian companies are using their cloud services.

Even if they switched to Google, wouldn't we want to tariff them as well for supporting Trump also? Or even Microsoft? They all spent a million $ for his inauguration. And I'd bet they would bend to his demands if push comes to shove.

We always knew that we depended too much on these companies and it's never been so obvious than now. When we're suddenly at the mercy of a psychopath fascists dictator president at the controls of our biggest economic partner.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know how you could tariff Meta, but I'd love if it was crippled so the essential groups I'm in would move somewhere else. I only ever get served posts from 1 or 2 of my real acquaintances as needles in a haystack of irrelevant trash.

Oops. Sorry, Meta. We just passed a law that you now have to pay a 300% monthly tax to operate in our country and every 3rd Tuesday of the month, Zuck has to publicly address the nation that he "Is a ginormous doo-doo head who likes to smell farts and sucks at hockey." Again. So sorry, buddy. -Canada.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The good solution is rather to invest in diversity of sources. For the oil side, the solution is to invest in renewables and electrification as to not depend on oligarchs anymore, just like China is massively doing by the way.

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[–] Podunk@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You guys in canada should 100% support retaliatory tariffs. Fire them at us as hard as you can. Make us a pariah.

We fucked around. We should find out. We couldnt learn from round one of trump. We couldnt learn from watching the train wreck that was brexit. If you dont quid pro quo. If you capitulate. We will not learn our lesson.

Teach us and do not make our mistakes.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 day ago

I think americans, or at least american conservatives, are too stupid to learn.

I was just reading about a conservative tax plan in Kansas ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment ) that by pretty much all metrics failed. Yet somehow they aren't run out of town.

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Well thought out TARGETED tariffs. Tariffs generally hurt us all. Us being the 99%. Stupid general tariffs benefit the 1% who can buy up the mess made from tanking the economy. Also, TransplantedSconie makes some great points

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As an American, I am SO SORRY Canadian friends. We don't deserve this.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 day ago (9 children)

American here.

Help.

Do what you can to crash the American economy, IDGAF. I don't know, grasping at straws.

Adopt me?

Help turn the entire world against America? Whatever it takes.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

Man, cheeto is in a rush to speed run to the find out stage...

I demand puts retaliatory taxes to the US, let them suffer

Start taxing the fuck out of u.s. automakers

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm boycotting all American goods and services. No more Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Disney (Never did go to Walmart). Going to be looking elsewhere for these things now.

[–] anomoly_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw this image being passed around online. As an American I can't comment on the accuracy of it, but hopefully it or similar lists help in your search.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thanks! Not sure of how accurate this is. I know there's a Lay's factory near me that makes chips. I guess the parent company is American. But that's still a handy cheat sheet.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m hoping for 100% tariffs on US Teslas and removing the current tariffs on Chinese EVs.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Carefully thought out trade with China would completely undercut and undermine the US, especially if other countries join. I agree and hopefully it becomes a trend. America is a great country but it's not more important than the world.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Markets gonna lose 10,000 points on open

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I hope so. That would be a nice fucking wake-up call to the orange traitor shitcunt’s moron supporters.

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Renegotiate so that these products go elsewhere for the next 4 years.

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